Fitz Suing NU Trial

[hdhntr1]

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I think they’ll settle for something close to Fritz’s original contract value. The contract just looks like this wasn’t covered under ‘for cause’. I doubt we’ll ever know the number.

Plus legal expenses which would be high, Otherwise he is paying a lot just to get the money he was owed

 

[hdhntr1]

Not to rehash old history and before I get lost-not sure if that is a geographical lost or mental, while Fitz was a great coach for some years at the end as established by his lack of wins he lost what he had

Cannot help you from getting lost but he had the 23 team set to win. He had gotten rid of his problem hire. Plus we would likely kept that class of recruits and others that transferred helping the last couple years

 

[hdhntr1]

Maybe if you knew anything about NU football you would know that those two disastrous seasons were right after Mike Hankwitz retired and the defense basically fell apart.

If there is any criticism in order regarding Fitz it is that he did not replace Hank with anyone capable of fielding a decent defense. He made some terrible hiring choices for two years for that position and it cost us heavily in losses.

But none of that negates the fact that Fitz brought us some great success in the previous 16 years. Successes that many people thought NU would never be capable of achieving. As Corbi posted above you have a very myopic view of Fitz and NU football.

It was one very bad hire which he saw the error of and replaced at the first logical opportunity

 

[Ilvolino]

Maybe if you knew anything about NU football you would know that those two disastrous seasons were right after Mike Hankwitz retired and the defense basically fell apart.

If there is any criticism in order regarding Fitz it is that he did not replace Hank with anyone capable of fielding a decent defense. He made some terrible hiring choices for two years for that position and it cost us heavily in losses.

But none of that negates the fact that Fitz brought us some great success in the previous 16 years. Successes that many people thought NU would never be capable of achieving. As Corbi posted above you have a very myopic view of Fitz and NU football.

I have been going to NU football games since 1955, so I think I know something about NU football as well as you or Corbi. I also know that Fitz hired his buddy O’Neil which was disastrous and that the Coach that brought NU out of the desert was Barnett.

 

[hdhntr1]

I have been going to NU football games since 1955, so I think I know something about NU football as well as you or Corbi. I also know that Fitz hired his buddy O’Neil which was disastrous and that the Coach that brought NU out of the desert was Barnett.

Fitz would not have been there or had the success he had had not Barnett done what he did, But he did lead NU to more continued and consistent success than Barnett did. The hiring of O'Neill was indeed terrible. Fitz did see the error in his ways and did replace that disasterous hire with Braun who we have seen was a solid move. In 23 the team was set up for success. Don't know what would have happened after but highly likely we would not have seen the mass exodous that crippled the program last year and looks like at bare minimum will be felt for at least a couple more years

 

[CatManTrue]

Probably not. This guy has NU landmarks as a player and as a coach....Will always be on the Mount Rushmore of NU football. The only two-time winner of both the Chuck Bednarik and Bronco Nagurski Awards, Chicago Sports Hall of Fame, College Football Hall of Fame, led us to first bowl victory in decades. two appearances in B10 Championship game...Now Schill on the other hand.

Who cares?

Fitz is an Iowa fan now.

And there is little evidence he actually cared about his players for the past decade plus.

His antics will be revealed in court soon, and they would have gotten him fired at most white collar jobs in America - where he would made far less than the fortune he did from NU.

He got fired. He deserved it. Braun is the real deal.

They will likely settle while keeping the $$$ amount private.

As a person who survived what I thought was a temporarily toxic environment in the 2000s: I now wish I had skipped football and just been a normal NU student like most of our fans here.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Who cares?

Fitz is an Iowa fan now.

And there is little evidence he actually cared about his players for the past decade plus.

His antics will be revealed in court soon, and they would have gotten him fired at most white collar jobs in America - where he would made far less than the fortune he did from NU.

He got fired. He deserved it. Braun is the real deal.

They will likely settle while keeping the $$$ amount private.

As a person who survived what I thought was a temporarily toxic environment in the 2000s: I now wish I had skipped football and just been a normal NU student like most of our fans here.

Sea kelp.

 

[No Chores]

Who cares?

Fitz is an Iowa fan now.

And there is little evidence he actually cared about his players for the past decade plus.

His antics will be revealed in court soon, and they would have gotten him fired at most white collar jobs in America - where he would made far less than the fortune he did from NU.

He got fired. He deserved it. Braun is the real deal.

They will likely settle while keeping the $$$ amount private.

As a person who survived what I thought was a temporarily toxic environment in the 2000s: I now wish I had skipped football and just been a normal NU student like most of our fans here.

Buzz off Jeff, Your one year as a walk-on football player who couldn't cut it as a player doesn't really add much to your credibility. Fitz' oldest son remains at NU, where, by all accounts, he's doing nicely.

 

[CoralSpringsCat]

It was one very bad hire which he saw the error of and replaced at the first logical opportunity

Braun as DC would have been pretty cool.

 

[CatManTrue]

Buzz off Jeff, Your one year as a walk-on football player who couldn't cut it as a player doesn't really add much to your credibility. Fitz' oldest son remains at NU, where, by all accounts, he's doing nicely.

I’m glad Fitz’s son is doing well. As a father, I have no ill will towards any child; and I spoke out, provided evidence, and hope to protect kids like him.

Your attack on me is tried and tired - do better. Things happened, not enough people were held accountable, and hopefully the court battle goes the distance so we avoid the settlement prediction and get a full story from both sides in front of judge & jury.

We’ll see what happens.

Sexualized hazing has no place in sports. Period. Go with God, @No Chores

 

[Ilvolino]

Braun as DC would have been pretty cool.

O’Neill should have been terminated after the first year he was that bad

 

[Ilvolino]

Buzz off Jeff, Your one year as a walk-on football player who couldn't cut it as a player doesn't really add much to your credibility. Fitz' oldest son remains at NU, where, by all accounts, he's doing nicely.

Of course there is an excuse or justification for any criticism of Saint Fitz. Some people do not have rose colored glasses on, they are just blind

 

[CatManTrue]

O’Neill should have been terminated after the first half against MSU he was that bad

FIFY 👍

 

[hdhntr1]

Braun as DC would have been pretty cool.

Exactly. And he would been able to concentrate on the D rather than having to split his duties in 100 different ways. Thus far, as a HC, I like him as a DC

 

[Sheffielder]

I hope in the foreseeable future we will have an administration that will welcome Fitz back to campus with an invitation that he will accept and his legacy at NU will be, in the long run, rightfully held in high esteem.

I do not think anything that happened at NU under his watch was any worse than anything happening in 99% of college locker rooms everywhere/anywhere. In fact, I bet it wasn't even close to as bad as it is in many places.

Fitz's fatal mistake was building his brand on being someone beyond reproach when it came to hazing, and making frequent, public statements to that effect. Stuff happened that fit the legal and institutional definition of hazing and initiation, which frankly does not surprise me at all. For those who insist he didn't know/couldn't have known, then he shouldn't have been so emphatic about it not happening.

Apart from should he/shouldn't he have been fired for cause...I would be interested to see/know how he would have navigated the seismic impact NIL has had over the past two years. I agree with those who think we were well-positioned to have an excellent 2023 season. But it's also not hard to picture him giving a million interviews over the past two years talking about how he's old school and how he was a poor college student back in the 90s and "that's how it should be." Maybe he would have shown agility and changed quickly with the times, but nothing about what we know about him would suggest this.

 

[its_the_sauce]

I hope in the foreseeable future we will have an administration that will welcome Fitz back to campus with an invitation that he will accept and his legacy at NU will be, in the long run, rightfully held in high esteem.

I do not think anything that happened at NU under his watch was any worse than anything happening in 99% of college locker rooms everywhere/anywhere. In fact, I bet it wasn't even close to as bad as it is in many places.

Fitz's fatal mistake was building his brand on being someone beyond reproach when it came to hazing, and making frequent, public statements to that effect. Stuff happened that fit the legal and institutional definition of hazing and initiation, which frankly does not surprise me at all. For those who insist he didn't know/couldn't have known, then he shouldn't have been so emphatic about it not happening.

Apart from should he/shouldn't he have been fired for cause...I would be interested to see/know how he would have navigated the seismic impact NIL has had over the past two years. I agree with those who think we were well-positioned to have an excellent 2023 season. But it's also not hard to picture him giving a million interviews over the past two years talking about how he's old school and how he was a poor college student back in the 90s and "that's how it should be." Maybe he would have shown agility and changed quickly with the times, but nothing about what we know about him would suggest this.

You've got a lot of nerve putting a sane/rational post on this thread LOL.

 

[IGNORE2]

I can’t answer that question. Some people on here don’t think Collins is a good Coach, yet let other subpar Coaches off Scott free. It’s much easier to point out or make up flaws than it is to recognize accomplishments.

What other coaches do you speak of?

 

[IGNORE2]

LOL, like I said, you are showing how clueless you are about NU’s history and the impediments faced because of the school’s academic requirements and small size. NU’s success during Fitz’s tenure is remarkable because he was able to achieve unprecedented on field success for the program while not sacrificing one iota when it came to the off the field academic expectations. Your bias also shows in your insistence to focus on his record the last two years without acknowledging that the team played in Big Ten Championship games two out of the prior three seasons. Those type of up and down results do not suggest a program in permanent decline but rather a temporary low point driven by a combination of coincidental factors and adjusting to rapid changes in the college football landscape. The fact that FItz’s recruiting class prior to being fired had the makings of his best ever recruiting class and that Braun took the roster he inherited from Fitz (minus several key departures post FItz firing) and won 8 games including a bowl game with it shows that FItz was well on his way to rebuilding the roster in a way that could compete in the NIL era.

It’s clear you have an ax to grind with FItz. Haters are going to hate. Thankfully you are in the minority. Maybe you, CatMantrue and Baz=Heisman can go form your own FItz Haters club online or just join Turk’s already established club.

Your false idol is gone, never coming back. Guess you can root for Iowa when he hires on there. Not sure you will be missed here nor appreciated there but I call it PF’s last great contribution to NU

 

[IGNORE2]

Fitz would not have been there or had the success he had had not Barnett done what he did, But he did lead NU to more continued and consistent success than Barnett did. The hiring of O'Neill was indeed terrible. Fitz did see the error in his ways and did replace that disasterous hire with Braun who we have seen was a solid move. In 23 the team was set up for success. Don't know what would have happened after but highly likely we would not have seen the mass exodous that crippled the program last year and looks like at bare minimum will be felt for at least a couple more years

Sure, and how about that wonderful OC pick up too?

 

[Max_Power]

Because NU was wrong to fire him. Schill caved and railroaded Fitz. Regardless of my allegiance to NU, wrong is wrong.

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