Hey Notre Dame -- Quit Flattering Us
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What about Rice? I think they are pretty up and up too. Air Force? (I would be surprised if they were different from Army or Navy, but who knows?).
I'm fairly well acquainted with Rice's athletic program. Fans and alums are discontented right now because of the way their long-time baseball coach's term has ended. The Owls' sport that's in greatest disarray, however, is men's basketball. The former coach (until last year) brought in players whose h.s. grades/test scores may have passed muster. (I don't know the facts and can't comment.)
But character and commitment are just as important, and that's where scholarships went to the wrong people. Rice has had a dozen men's hoopsters quit or transfer in the past two years. All of last fall's frosh recruits are already gone. (Not to the NBA!) Surely that's a record even in this time of transfer volatility.
A new head football coach (former Stanford coordinator) is on board and hopes are guardedly higher for the coming season. It's a difficult time overall for Rice's major sports at this moment but overall I would concur that the school is on the "up and up" in its recruiting and importantly, in maintaining ongoing academic standards for players. I've been at practices when players must leave to attend classes or labs. Don't think that happens at too many D-1 places.
I'm fairly well acquainted with Rice's athletic program. Fans and alums are discontented right now because of the way their long-time baseball coach's term has ended. The Owls' sport that's in greatest disarray, however, is men's basketball. The former coach (until last year) brought in players whose h.s. grades/test scores may have passed muster. (I don't know the facts and can't comment.)
But character and commitment are just as important, and that's where scholarships went to the wrong people. Rice has had a dozen men's hoopsters quit or transfer in the past two years. All of last fall's frosh recruits are already gone. (Not to the NBA!) Surely that's a record even in this time of transfer volatility.
A new head football coach (former Stanford coordinator) is on board and hopes are guardedly higher for the coming season. It's a difficult time overall for Rice's major sports at this moment but overall I would concur that the school is on the "up and up" in its recruiting and importantly, in maintaining ongoing academic standards for players. I've been at practices when players must leave to attend classes or labs. Don't think that happens at too many D-1 places.
To be fair, getting into Notre Dame is a lot easier than getting into Northwestern for the general student body as well. So, I guess everything is relative.
Who cares if ND has lower academic standards for their football players than we do. That is common knowledge but it doesn’t make it wrong. The examples cited such as Tony Rice and Chris zorich are actually success stories. It proves that there are many athletes, and regular students for that matter, that do not get admitted to schools like ND and NU who could succeed academically and thrive in their post graduate life if given the opportunity to attend these schools. What I find shameful about ND’s administration of its football program has been how they have recruited and covered up for scumbags like Prince Shembo to protect the image and reputation of the football program/University. That does not happen at NU under Pat Fitzgerald and this administration.
Well, that, and the fact that apparently every idiot in South Bend spends their time tutoring the ND players, hence FriedmanIP.
Like I said, great story, but let's not pretend that Notre Shame has any admissions standards beyond what they are then.
Yes. 1987. As in the year before your last national title. You basically had to cheat to get that and you’ve had none since the Reagan Administration.
And no, we don’t take the mopes that you do. You’re trying to compete with Alabama. (And failing miserably). We’re trying to create productive leaders and citizens.
I’m not surprised by your attitude. Has-been are always the last to realize that their time is done. ND hasn’t been relevant for decades. Some day, you’ll all wake up and realize you’ve been living in the past like out of the Springsteen song Glory Days.
In other words, your football standards are about the same as Duke and Georgetown basketball. Basically, none. Congrats on sinking to an ACC level.
They have standards. Not as rigorous as ours. Who cares other than you? This will be settled on the field, not with petty arguements like this one.
I do recall some football players in L. B. Smith’s History of England class, so this checks out.
Damn you're angry! Can you please explain how ND cheated to win the 88 national championship and congratulations on producing productive leaders and citizens.
