Sounds like they should definitely take care of business tomorrow. I hope they do. Let’s see if they do.
Indiana irritated at Big Ten over Citrus Bowl snub
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Northwestern has built its football brand over 25 years.
That's why we got the Citrus bid over IU.
Division titles recently, Big Ten titles before that, a lot of bowls attended and won. We've gotten better at selling our bowl tickets too but that didn't matter for this year.
That's why we got the bid. We have all that and they don’t.
BTW, if we had beaten Michigan State, we absolutely would have gotten a NY6 bid as a 7-1 team.
That's the difference between where our two programs are.
That's why we got the Citrus bid over IU.
Division titles recently, Big Ten titles before that, a lot of bowls attended and won. We've gotten better at selling our bowl tickets too but that didn't matter for this year.
That's why we got the bid. We have all that and they don’t.
BTW, if we had beaten Michigan State, we absolutely would have gotten a NY6 bid as a 7-1 team.
That's the difference between where our two programs are.
I am sure they will return their share of Ohio State's CFP money.
Let's not be too harsh. Indiana has no Dark Ages or 1995 experiences to temper their outrage. For me, the former offers deep appreciation for any bowl that takes NU while the latter allows a recognition that distinctions among non-Tier 1 bowls are largely meaningless. Longstanding mediocrity - as compared to mind numbing failure followed by moments of breathtaking brilliance - is the father of shallow perspective. Voila
Come on, this is Indiana football. They've been bad forever.
Yeah this is pretty much what my buddy who went to IU has been saying.
Still, they better not lose.
Is there any actual proof that the league office intervened?
Just feels obvious to me that Indiana would get passed here, especially after Penix injury.
Citrus passing Indiana up for us is just a relative indication of where our two programs are.
Putting myself in their shoes, I get it. Putting myself back in my shoes, I'd still like to make fun of them for it.
There are two reasons why Indiana is upset at the Big Ten. The first was the rule change that took them out of the championship game. The second is the Big Ten pressure on the Citrus Bowl to select the championship game loser regardless of the availability of other Big Ten teams. They probably feel the conference should have given them the Citrus bowl game because they should have been in the conference championship game. Still, it would have been better for them to wait until after the Outback bowl to complain. It is a bit childish to remove the conference logo.
The ACC has an auto bid to the Orange Bowl that goes to the highest non-playoff team in the CFB playoff rankings
Yes I remember we were worried about getting jumped by either wisconsin iowa or indiana this year. Was so happy to get citrus bow!
I really want to be rooting for Indiana today. However, their fans claiming that they would destroy NU and claiming they ONLY lost to OSU by 7 when the game was clearly one sided when OSU fell asleep is wearing thin. They should clobber a bad Ole Miss team and the cries that they are clearly the second best team in the B1G will grow louder. This B1G ten is against us mantra sounds like Nebraska. BTW- Indiana is a team that hasn’t won a bowl game in 30 years and I don’t they turned down the B1G bowl checks during that period. NU would beat Indiana this year.
I know there is, but I’ve never felt there was a huge difference between the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl.
Iowa State should not be in the Fiesta. IU is correct but the Outback is a good bowl that has served the BIG well. IU has shared the bowl revenue money for many years without winning one this century. The Outback Bowl is a good host and great publicity in a great football pipeline. IU has many Florida players. Their QB Penix although hurt is from Tampa. The BIG sure could use another win over the SEC. IU better win as posted above. Had they not choked away the Gator Bowl a year ago, it might have been different.
The citrus is essentially the undercard to the Rose Bowl which I’d the highest rated game in CFB.
I think we would beat IU by a TD or more with Penix at QB. They really have no sense for how good of a defense we have and how we have shut down offenses that were as explosive or more explosive than theirs. They did not beat one team with a winning record this year. I have no idea how good Ole Miss is but if they are halfway decent I think Indiana is setting themselves up to have a lot of egg on their face today.
They better not lose after saying they deserve a better bowl and pulling this stunt with the Big Ten patches. I mean that would be a complete clown show.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they come out motivated at least to show they belong.
I mean, the difference isn't "gigantic" but it's a bit of a difference.
Citrus has always been the #1 bowl under the BCS/NY6 bowls (the best timeslot, 1pm on ABC on Jan 1 with the biggest payouts of non-BCS/NY6 bowls). It's basically about as prestigious as a non-BCS/NY6 bowl gets.
And the ratings match, there are years where Citrus is rated better than some of the BCS/NY6 due to timeslot and matchup (#1 Big Ten and #1 SEC teams selected after BCS/NY6).
But Outback is a really good bowl too; basically just below Citrus in the pecking order.
We've basically won all of the good bowls in the Big Ten's 2010+ selection process except for Outback now, since we've won Citrus, Holiday, Music City, Gator, and Pinstripe.
Outback is the only one left to cross out among the top 6 (of course other than Rose/NY6).
Las Vegas got added recently into the top half of the selection process, so there's that one to win too.
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Yes. However, they’ve been pretty sloppy about scheduling it that way.
The conference considers Citrus, Outback, and Holiday to all be "tier 1" bowls, which means their pick order can be "fiddled with" to prevent repeat visits, etc. That's part of the reason we went to Holiday in 2018 rather than Outback, which we had already been to in 2015.
Lane Kiffin is such a tool. Don’t think I can root for Ole Miss. This is so emabarrassing.
Yes, but even within those there's a pecking order.
Citrus always gets first choice within parameters about repeats and whatnot. They've always selected first after BCS/NY6. Outback always gets 2nd choice. After that bowls have always been shifted around into the #3 slot.
Right now Las Vegas Bowl would be #3 (in place of Holiday which held that spot a while).
But yes there's always been 3 tiers of quality of bowls:
Top Tier
1) Citrus
2) Outback
3) Holiday (2020 Las Vegas Bowl took this spot)
Middle Tier
4) Music City/Gator
5) Pinstripe
6) Belk (Duke's Mayo)
Lower Tier
7) Redbox
8) Quick Lane
Gets pretty hazy after Pinstripe though since you're mostly just not going to see ranked teams in the games after that game.
Well, if they lose, I'll be glad they are not wearing the B1G emblem. Just a MAC team.
Funny thing, I'm watching the game and for some reason it is in Spanish. The commercials are in english, every other channel on my TV is in English. I checked my settings, English.
Or maybe it’s because they haven’t beaten a winning team all year.
True but ESPN pays for the bowls and SEC is their favorite. Rankings had both above IN
Indiana is shitting the bed in the first half. Not looking good at all against a 4-5 Ole Miss team.
They are without Pennix or whatever his name is. Don't think they are the same team without him
Sorry but without their QB they are not a great team and unfortunately not worthy of the higher ranking bowl
They do not have Penix and I believe he went down before bowl selection. Not the same team without him
“This bowl game is beneath us!”
*scores 3 points in the first half*
*scores 3 points in the first half*
Don't forget that without Penix they aren't really the team that was able to go 6-1 and I am not sure that as things played out that they really beat anyone
They did not beat anyone with a winning record and they are without their electric QB (Penix) Don't know how they feel they have been snubbed
They did not beat anyone with a winning record and they are without Penix. System may be f****d up but they are not a good example. Want respect, win the d**n game in front of you
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