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This may be Barnett's one big failing. At the time, everyone knew this but him.
I don't know.....CO seemed to be where his heart was, I can't fault him for going home. It just didn't work out for him.This may be Barnett's one big failing. At the time, everyone knew this but him.
I think thats totally ridiculous. Almost everyone in the coaching profession would have left earlier. He had to beg NU for everything and got little administrative support. AD Rick Taylor may have been the single biggest douche bag to ever wear purple. I think Barnett made the right decision at the time. But now when he looks back at his legacy and tenures at both NU and Colorado..I can understand why he feels like he may have made a mistake.This may be Barnett's one big failing. At the time, everyone knew this but him.
I agree with you about Rick Taylor, and would agree with you about "ridiculous" also, were it not for Barnett's whoring around with anyone who he could talk with before taking the Colorado offer, and for the fact that both Walker and Fitzgerald were able to build upon the groundwork laid by Barnett and increasingly build a successful program. Barnett is a "grass is greener" kind of guy which suggests Taylor may not have been the main reason he left. After all, Barnett overcame 20 years of Dark Ages--but he couldn't overcome Taylor? No, he had the "itch" and an imagined Nirvana at Colorado proved false--it existed in Barnett's mind but not in reality.I think thats totally ridiculous. Almost everyone in the coaching profession would have left earlier. He had to beg NU for everything and got little administrative support. AD Rick Taylor may have been the single biggest douche bag to ever wear purple. I think Barnett made the right decision at the time. But now when he looks back at his legacy and tenures at both NU and Colorado..I can understand why he feels like he may have made a mistake.
AD Rick Taylor may have been the single biggest douche bag to ever wear purple.
I agree with you about Rick Taylor, and would agree with you about "ridiculous" also, were it not for Barnett's whoring around with anyone who he could talk with before taking the Colorado offer, and for the fact that both Walker and Fitzgerald were able to build upon the groundwork laid by Barnett and increasingly build a successful program. Barnett is a "grass is greener" kind of guy which suggests Taylor may not have been the main reason he left. After all, Barnett overcame 20 years of Dark Ages--but he couldn't overcome Taylor? No, he had the "itch" and an imagined Nirvana at Colorado proved false--it existed in Barnett's mind but not in reality.
I agree Barnett was looking for a "better" job. But the NU job was the definition of a sucky job. Regardless of the success, Being vastly underpaid compared to your peers, Always having to beg for more money for yourself, assistant coaches, facilities and for the little support staff they had... every year! The facilities were beyond horrible and working for a total asswipe like Taylor that gave Kevin O more money than Barnett without him winning a single basketball game.His leaving for Colorado I understand. He was very enamored of being in demand (also understandable, but he did come just short of having an 800 number).
Rick Taylor is part of the equation, of that there can be no doubt.
But the bottom line is, Barnett was interested in "better" jobs. That he saw Colorado as one is, again, quite understandable. But even had that job never come open, he had some bags packed for a while.
I think his definition of what a "better" job is has evolved, as it would for any intelligent and reflective person.
I agree Barnett was looking for a "better" job. But the NU job was the definition of a sucky job. Regardless of the success, Being vastly underpaid compared to your peers, Always having to beg for more money for yourself, assistant coaches, facilities and for the little support staff they had... every year! The facilities were beyond horrible and working for a total asswipe like Taylor that gave Kevin O more money than Barnett without him winning a single basketball game.
Really the only people who would have taken the NU job when Barnett left were MAC level coaches like RW. Nobody who was established or had a record at anyplace that could be called a football school would have taken the NU job. They heard the horror stories about the lack of support which are too numerous to mention.
That's the point I'm making. Barnett now sees what others saw when he left. Colorado for Barnett, unlike NU for Fitz, was a mirage. He was too ambitious. He had a good gig here, which he himself created, and couldn't see it. Proof? Fitz sees it.I don't argue your points.
Yet Barnett himself now has second thoughts about his decision.
They'd refurbished Ryan Field. Henry Bienen wasn't hostile to athletics (though apparently partial to hoops). Maybe Barnett now thinks he could've outlasted Taylor if he'd stuck around.
That's the irony--ultimately NU is better off for Barnett leaving, most likely.Things worked out for the best for Northwestern; we got Walk and he brought back and mentored Fitz. The chain of Barnett/Walk/Fitz will always be what built the foundation for long-term success that we are enjoying now.
As far as Barnett goes, it's just tough to see how it could have worked out better for him staying in the short term. He got out when his stock was still high, and it was nowhere near clear that Northwestern at the time was built for long-term success like it is now.
The financial resources available right now are at least 20x greater than what we had back then; even if you adjust for inflation that still leaves a 8-10x boost. And of course the support isn't just financial, it's across the board support from the trustees to the AD to the alumni on a scale that wasn't present back then.
It's just tough to imagine a scenario where Barnett stays more than 10-15 years here, and it works out as well as what actually came to pass...
I guess this means you finally ditched that old rag grey sweatshirt?I'm relieved to hear I finally have some competition!
Just like the team he coaches.More interesting is that Fitz is at $4.5M a year. Pretty sure that’s in the top 25 in the country.
That's the irony--ultimately NU is better off for Barnett leaving, most likely.
Nah. But you may be pleased to know I wore a new one for the bowl game.I guess this means you finally ditched that old rag grey sweatshirt?
That is what I was thinking. BY leaving, NU was faced with the reality that a good coach could not be held on to without more support. Staying would have made Barnett and enabler and after a few more years with mediocre support his stock would have dropped and the program would have been none the better.That's the irony--ultimately NU is better off for Barnett leaving, most likely.
This may be Barnett's one big failing. At the time, everyone knew this but him.
He may not be a super hero elsewhere, but there are lots of fans and coaches who have great respect for him--some of the Utah fans I met on Monday among them.Fitz is a super hero in Evanston and Evanston alone. This is not a bad thing. Most of us are not super heroes anywhere.
But after the pair of 5-7 seasons Fitz had not long ago...he would not have been able to retain both coordinators in Ann Arbor, or Austin, or wherever. Anywhere else, including/especially in the NFL, he does not get to have things all his way - it's decision by committee - whether we're talking about GMs, boosters, or prima donna players - or their parents, or their agents.
I would not blame Fitz for wanting to try something new, and if/when that day should come, I will be more grateful for his service to NU than bitter about his departure...but Evanston is where he stands to have the most impact, find the most success, and the most enjoyment out of coaching. We (and I count him in "we") are all fortunate he realizes that.
This is really thoughtful. It’s good to have you back.And a related point: there are those few right now who think Fitz is a sucker for not jumping at the chance to coach the Packers, Michigan, etc.
But a much larger number of people DON'T think that - and not just because "Fitz has job security for life." It's also because people see the investment made in the program, because they see that Fitz sees our identity as something enviable and worth selling, and because success here by a succession of coaches has made ours a job worth having- and keeping.
I think thats totally ridiculous. Almost everyone in the coaching profession would have left earlier. He had to beg NU for everything and got little administrative support. AD Rick Taylor may have been the single biggest douche bag to ever wear purple. I think Barnett made the right decision at the time. But now when he looks back at his legacy and tenures at both NU and Colorado..I can understand why he feels like he may have made a mistake.
And a related point: there are those few right now who think Fitz is a sucker for not jumping at the chance to coach the Packers, Michigan, etc.
But a much larger number of people DON'T think that - and not just because "Fitz has job security for life." It's also because people see the investment made in the program, because they see that Fitz sees our identity as something enviable and worth selling, and because success here by a succession of coaches has made ours a job worth having- and keeping.
Things worked out for the best for Northwestern; we got Walk and he brought back and mentored Fitz. The chain of Barnett/Walk/Fitz will always be what built the foundation for long-term success that we are enjoying now.
As far as Barnett goes, it's just tough to see how it could have worked out better for him staying in the short term. He got out when his stock was still high, and it was nowhere near clear that Northwestern at the time was built for long-term success like it is now.
The financial resources available right now are at least 20x greater than what we had back then; even if you adjust for inflation that still leaves a 8-10x boost. And of course the support isn't just financial, it's across the board support from the trustees to the AD to the alumni on a scale that wasn't present back then.
It's just tough to imagine a scenario where Barnett stays more than 10-15 years here, and it works out as well as what actually came to pass...
That's a fair point, and I don't think anybody should discount that Barnett may have been able to carry it forward on his own and get us to a handoff to Fitz.I think we could have ended up with Fitz without Walker being in the middle. It's not as if there was no connection between Fitz and Barnett. I know many disagree, but I still think we went through a dip in our development as a program (especially relative to Wisconsin) with Barnett's departure. I thank Walker for bringing the spread to NU though. If we had a Walker offense to go with a Hankwitz defense, we'd be winning B1G titles.
According to this USA Today story, $4.5 M would put him between Ferentz and Dantonio at #18.....but still trailing Lovie!More interesting is that Fitz is at $4.5M a year. Pretty sure that’s in the top 25 in the country.
You get to a point where making some more money doesn't really matter. There is only so much money can buy. Once you are sufficiently comfortable, other things matter more.
According to this USA Today story, $4.5 M would put him between Ferentz and Dantonio at #18.....but still trailing Lovie!
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
Yeah Teddy snuck that one into his article this morning. Harlan must have told him that. I think the last reported number was like $3.2 or $3.3M? They must have quietly negotiated a raise or extension sometime over the last year or so. $4.5M is a great number for Fitz, he totally deserves it. Hope he continues to negotiate out sufficient comp to attract and retain quality assistants.More interesting is that Fitz is at $4.5M a year. Pretty sure that’s in the top 25 in the country.
I was told by a member of his staff that he would only leave for the job at Colorado.His leaving for Colorado I understand. He was very enamored of being in demand (also understandable, but he did come just short of having an 800 number).
Rick Taylor is part of the equation, of that there can be no doubt.
But the bottom line is, Barnett was interested in "better" jobs. That he saw Colorado as one is, again, quite understandable. But even had that job never come open, he had some bags packed for a while.
I think his definition of what a "better" job is has evolved, as it would for any intelligent and reflective person.
I was told by a member of his staff that he would only leave for the job at Colorado.
Yep, I feel this is the real reason Gary left here, adding to the lack of support in both facilities and money for assistants. He didn't think he could sustain it. That's why Fitz has called his new facility a "game changer."thought that GB simply caught lightning in a bottle here-that you could not really win here consistently. That moving
Yeah Teddy snuck that one into his article this morning. Harlan must have told him that. I think the last reported number was like $3.2 or $3.3M? They must have quietly negotiated a raise or extension sometime over the last year or so. $4.5M is a great number for Fitz, he totally deserves it. Hope he continues to negotiate out sufficient comp to attract and retain quality assistants.
So another 0.9M. I guess it's possible that is performance-related bonuses of some kind, but that seems like a lot.The last reported number I saw was 3.6 million, and that was not terribly long ago.I cannot remember where I saw it, but I think it was in more than one place