Not sure what that has to do with Carmody running off Coble, which is the story I want to read.You don't get it, do you? JV was *not* a B1G-quality player. </s>
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Not sure what that has to do with Carmody running off Coble, which is the story I want to read.You don't get it, do you? JV was *not* a B1G-quality player. </s>
Incorrect.Or Cuck and Snowflake are commonly used terms in most mainstream society.
I deleted it because I accomplished my mission by Trahan highlighting it on his twitter. I know how some "think" its being employed. I also know how it's used in real life. There is no better place for its use than internet message boards
What I don't understand is why people use derogatory names towards others.I deleted it because I accomplished my mission by Trahan highlighting it on his twitter. I know how some "think" its being employed. I also know how it's used in real life. There is no better place for its use than internet message boards
Or Cuck and Snowflake are commonly used terms in most mainstream society. Listen to a barstool podcast (#1 on iTunes) and it's used constantly. Get over the liberal noise that all of these clever new words are nazi propaganda. I love it when an internet stranger calls me a Nazi, as I'm Jewish with two gay brothers. A cuck snowflake is simply somebody trying to make noise with a bunch of bullcrap.
Incorrect.
Your loss. It's pure gold.I don't think those words are Nazi propaganda. I do think they give readers an easy way to determine who's worth listening to, though.
The next time I listen to a Barstool podcast will be one time too many.
Another Internet troll. Impressive. You and Virginia make a great couple.
Counterpoint: NU offered him a four-year athletic scholarship, thereby making a four year commitment.Johnnie Vasser is a whining, litigious, little bastard. He should be greatful he was even admitted to NU. If he gets a Northwestern degree he should be forever greatful to everyone, edorcialky CC who made it possible for him to attend NU. If it was up to me, he'd be on the street.
Counterpoint: NU offered him a four-year athletic scholarship, thereby making a four year commitment.
Big difference between raising an eyebrow on Twitter and what Kevin is doing now with his hyperposting in the InsideNU comments on his and Ben's articles. I doubt Teddy hyperposts in the comments sections of his and his colleagues articles. What Kevin is doing absolutely screams "unprofessional" to me.
My conclusion upon reading the InsideNU story: Ben Goren needs a better editor. (Srsly, fewer words are better.)
"For sale: Baby shoes, never worn."
NUCat320 has summed it up best: JV was not a Big 10 caliber player. Turner, Lieberman, Ajou, Abrahamson were not Big 10 caliber players. If you use them as examples of a coaching staff gone rouge, then you are advocates of a below Big 10 level team. Collins saw that immediately that he had to get the way below Big 10 caliber players off the roster. I saw that also very quickly but others did not want to admit that was the real issue with prior teams. Google Buzz Williams and see how he cleared out the entire roster including Joey Van Zegeren if you want to see more questionable manner of cleaning out his roster.[/Q
Don't hold back E-Cat. Tell us what you really feel.Yup, and NU and CCC delivered on that commitment. He got his four years. Unlike kids in a similar position at other schools. I'm proud of NU for delivering on that. I am not familiar with any other story or situation where that has happened at any other school.
I really don't understand the outrage. The kid came, he got his free education. He's not owed 4 years on the team. He was made to be a janitor? Waaah! Maybe the refusal to do the role assigned to him regardess of how awkward or hard it was is a reflection of why he was booted from the team. He was forced off of the team? Well, if CCC felt he had any value that wouldn't have happened. If he didn't like it, he should go somewhere else. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous. Grow up. And let's not pretend for a moment that this was about getting an NU education. JV got a deal to get one and he took it. So, why the lawsuit? No, this was about JV thinking he deserved to be kept on the team somehow. Well, it's not his decision, CCC doesn't owe him anything there and JV handled this the wrong way. Kale Abrahamson handled things the right way.He too was encouraged to leave (or simply told with transparency what he could expect in terms of role) and expectations did not align. So he did. Why would anyone want to stay where they weren't valued according to their own assessment? No hard feelings. If JV couldn't deal with this, then he has a lot of learning to do when he enters the real world and any job. I have nothing against the kid, and I do think he had a tough break and feel for him, but you know what, you should move on from it. Either take your 4 years of free education from a world class university (which he got 3 of thus far) or leave for greener pastures and hopefully find yourself somewhere where you are valued according to your expectations. This lawsuit? What on earth are they suing for? What are the damages? The loss of a free education (nope)? Loss of future revenue from a professional basketball career (I'd love to be in the courtroom to hear how that's laid out)? Because CCC ended his dream of playing Div I basketball (well, shit, I too had a dream to play Div I basketball, and it didn't work out for me either, but I didn't get a $100K in scholarship money). Frivolous. The only practical motive for any litigator to recommend a lawsuit here that I can think of is to squeeze some sort of "go away" settlement (though I do allow for the Vassars feeling somehow that they were "wronged" and have to take some sort of action). I can't imagine the University would fall for it, but they may decide some modest payout might be easier than enduring the hit pieces from scummy pretend journalists aiming to drag the University's name through the mud (which we have already seen the first of) that will come from this and the legal fees of simply responding to and having the case dismissed immediately by a court.
And rightly or wrongly, I for one would never hire the kid based on what has happened here and what was printed in Trahan's article - without any input from CCC or the NU administration (if anything, inputs from the latter would only allow me to soften). Not because I think he's a bad kid or anything, but I don't think he handled the situation correctly or had the right judgment or response, no matter what NU did and I certainly wouldn't want someone as high maintenance as he appears to be (again simply reading from Trahan's article).
And another thing (emotional rant to follow): whereas I have nothing against JV, the perpertrators of these hit articles, Trahan and Goren are petty and known Carmody huggers who are wanna-be "journalists" who pretend that they have some semblance of professionalism and credentials. They have none, no more than anyone on this board, and that includes Felis. Felis puts out more well thought and balanced viewpoints than these fools. As Virginia has rightfully pointed out, they have had nothing but spite and meanness and doubt about the program since Carmody was forced out. (Yeah, yeah, I know about the piece on the Collins press conference that Trahan did, but unfortunately, nothing else has remotely approached balance in his tweets and hit pieces on NU basketball since.) They were wrong as they could be about Phillips' decision to can Carmody (while some here are gracious and say the appreciate the consistent mediocrity he brought to NU, I say he was lucky he wasn't canned earlier as his putrid results would have warranted at any other Power 5 program and anyone who says what he did is somehow worth shouting about and that this was as much as could be expected at NU, well, CCC killed that argument this year, so shut the hell up), they were wrong as they could be about predicting failure for Collins and the program, and the pattern continues here. They are of the same ilk as MysticCat, though a bit more subtle and sneaky about it, but no less petty and mean, and I for one can't believe that anyone on InsideNU thinks highly of anything of what they think or write. I mean Vice news? is there anything that screams more "fake news" this side of Breitbart, Drudge Report, and the Huffington Post? And before anyone calls me a hypocrite - yes, I'm just as petty and mean and have as many one-sided opinions myself, but the difference is that I don't pretend to hide behind some ridiculous costume and call myself a journalist. I'm just an idiot with a keyboard and a Wildcat report account with too much time on my hands. I weep for Medill and the future of our media if this is the product that comes out.
I can't help but wonder how this thread would be going if the exact same story came out about a player at, say, Illinois.
I can't help but wonder how this thread would be going if the exact same story came out about a player at, say, Illinois.
The NCAA only mandates single-year scholarships that are renewed on an annual basis. The Big Ten goes beyond this by mandating four-year scholarships.2) Can't just slide your players over to academic scholarship. Makes a mockery of the 13 scholarship rule. Would be ABUSED throughout the country if it were legal.
I've just read the Vice story, and, in my opinion, NU didn't come out looking so bad. And JV didn't come out looking so good. JV probably looks better, but it's not the "NU *is* the seedy underbelly of college sports" takedown I had expected.Don't hold back E-Cat. Tell us what you really feel.
I have 2 issues with the story given the info that has been presented. 1) The possible fraud and the ensuing, idiotic paper trail IF you believe the doctored time cards. 2) Can't just slide your players over to academic scholarship. Makes a mockery of the 13 scholarship rule. Would be ABUSED throughout the country if it were legal.
What I don't like about the story is how blatantly 1-sided it is and that it's presented as NEWS, when it's not anything new, just a re-hash of what happened previously designed to take advantage of timing. Everything JV's side suggests is accepted as 100 percent truth, and suppositions are made by NCAA people based on his statements being 100 percent true. There's no way D1 schools offered him a scholarship if he could transfer right away for instance. Other schools know that's not possible, so why would they say that and mean it?
It's a hit piece by people with an agenda.