Which QBs? We have never had a problem developing QB. Basanez, Bacher, Kafka, Persa, Colter, Siemian, Thorson. I don't see a problem.
Mick McCall
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Which QBs? We have never had a problem developing QB. Basanez, Bacher, Kafka, Persa, Colter, Siemian, Thorson. I don't see a problem.
Colter (wasn't exactly a legit QB), Siemian (had the talent but not given the tools - Denver hopes to cultivate, we will see), Oliver, Alviti, Thorson (I was not impressed regardless of his age). I think you can include Watkins. This is off the top of head, perhaps there are more.
I think the league has changed since Persa. I don't think Micky has adapted well. We used to have problems with DBs, that has changed. We used to develop QBs, that too has changed.
It's hard for Midwestern programs to go to warm climates and play good competition. Ask Iowa and Northwestern. We had a solid year and beat some good teams. If we were going to beat Tennessee, it would have to be in late November in Chicago. I like the Detroit Lions play calling today. Looked like Stanford out there. Both those teams have great OC. McCall is below average and needs to retire,imho.
One thing for sure - the recruited talent and athleticism of the last few years in the WR corp was orders of magnitudes better than what we had during the Walker years. Yet the Walker WR's were far more productive. Boy, we miss Kevin Johns. Please get rid of Springer. How many chances do you give a guy to eff up his job?
Boy, that would be nice. And even if we dont agree about Colter, you were noticeably silent about the rest. Guess you should take your Micky Fun Club pin back to your room and have another.
From my perspective, the only QB who developed was Kafka. 1 out of 8 is bad. Colter and TS never developed, they came in and played as underclassmen but never developed or progressed insomuch that there was any difference as seniors. Colter seemed to regress actually. Toss in Watkins as well. Then you had 4 QB's on the team this year, including a 5th year senior, 2 four stars, and a freshman, and NONE were developed to be functional.
A poor man's Tebow. Ok, while healthy, in gimmicky college O - but not a real QB. But prove me wrong Corbi - who is he playing for today? Many other QBs from NU with a cup of coffee at NFL level. Which team did Colter suit up for as a QB? Or suit up for...
Do you seriously think our WR's now are more athletic and talented than Lane, Ward, and Peterman. Or Stewart and Ebert.
Walker's receivers were far more productive because they had Basanez and Bacher throwing to them. Also, because they were much better than the guys we've had lately.
That said, and as much as I hate to advocate firing a coach, but Springer has some explaining to do.
I think Vitale was a better te target than anyone else we have had. Period. I also think shuler, Vault, and Roberts were just as athletic as anyone mentioned. Not sure how you can believe that our wr's werent as athletic or talented as our previous ones. Cripes, Roberts and Shuler were track stars, and Vault wasn't far behind???? Also, Thorson appears to be one of our most athletic qbs. To suggest that our wide receivers aren't more athletic than Lane, Stewart, Peterman is nuts. So, you can toss out your defense of McCall by claiming we have a bunch of farmers at wide receiver as you reject the NCAA stats PROVING that our offense is the worst in all college football over a 2 year span. And, typical of most leftist, you can't talk straight except in a display of anger. Either don't mention Springer and firing in the same context or call it what you are saying. GET REAL!
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Athletic - Prater? Shuler? Christian Jones? Yes, more so than all those except Ebert. Talented? Well, our current WR's are not talented at catching the ball, running routes, or blocking so no. Walker's receivers didn't drop passes. They ran crisp routes. They blocked. And they got better every year.
Tennessee played a better football game than we did. It had nothing to do with climate. We seemed to do OK against Mississippi State in a similar climate. How many actual cold-weather games did we play during the regular season? That's as pathetic as the "body clock" excuse that the Stanford apologists kept using to explain their loss to Northwestern.
man, this stuff has been going on forever. Let’s not forget about dumping springer.
you are wrong.
And what about your boy Smith?
Hasnt McCall had him for 4 years now? How is that working out?
Mccall hasnt developed one single QB on the team. Smith, Marty, HJ.
Sorry but the blame goes to Fitzgerald. He approved these scholarships, and when you think about it, Marty and Smith were thought to be raw and not upper echelon prospects. We reached in both cases and they have not panned out. it puts a lot of pressure on the staff when the head coach signs QBs who need a lot of development over and over. We have had good fortune and good coaching in the past but that kind of “buy low” approach can’t always work.
Do we really need to drag out 4 year old posts showing Bob and Corbi scrapping when we have new and fresh ones where they are going at it on same topic?
Corbi defending McCall is as certain as the sun rising and setting every day.
Corbi must have met him once. Any other person could plainly see what one acting like a fool believes.
No is the answer. I think Bob is trying to make some sort of point. Perhaps that he is right and Corbi is wrong. Though I'm not sure it's working, it looks more to me like they both are just petulant, difficult, stubborn and annoying- have been for multiple years and continue to be so today.
Please stop bringing out old posts to pollute the board, there is plenty of fodder for complaining already today.
I've had 10k + posts on this board, of which probably 9500 of them contained a degree of inanity. Lord forbid that someone takes the trouble to "mine" through them to prove me wrong.
I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast, let alone what my post was during the Brewfka phase or the Colter/Siemian experiment (except that Colter was better, of course)
what makes you think the problems are due to McCall? Fitzgerald chooses the recruits. He also changed our identity because he wants to deploy more of a power running style.
