Funny to see the same guy that says he wants to see Madrigal do it over a sustained period of time puffing his chest over 8 starts.
I do agree that Hoerner's mid 600's career OPS do give you a better idea of who he actually is.
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Wtf are you talking about? Now I know why you don’t ever support your argument after throwing together this gem. Great if you get a Cy Young in a 60 game season. Throw a frigging parade. Maybe you feel great about your 7 wins for $44m. Wtf were you last two years singing Yu’s praises?
Yu Cubbie fans kill me. always find someone to hitch your wagon to. Front runners. Darvish never came up until he turned it around this year, Baez is doing good, he suddenly is ARod. KB is Ike Schmidt at third. Schwarbs is Sosa. Then they suck and they are hurt or there are no fans. Always an excuse. They would be exposed in a normal season, so enjoy it while you can.
Lol, So now we need to look at Nico’s entire career while you get puffy chested about Yu’s season when he has been an average SP for the last half decade?
Madrigal is a better defender than Nico. Wtf cares if Nico could play SS, which I don't think he can at an elite level. The beloved have the best SS in baseball there in Baez. You going to play two SS’s now? Nico can play 2B and settle in there as an adequate defender, Madrigal is a better defender at 2B and will end his career with a better lifetime average than Nico. Keep pushing Theo’s great draft picks, because he is going to have opportunities to draft high again very soon.
Stick to football and with your scouting. How Ja doing with your prediction for the Bulls pick?
You are contradicting yourself left and right. First you argue incorrectly that Yu’s success has been limited to eight games this year and when I provide stats ove the last year that completely disprove that, you come up with some other excuse. Bottom line, the stats prove out that Yu has been one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball and more than deserving of his contact.
Out of the other side of your mouth you are arguing that it’s more appropriate to judge Hoerner and compare him to Madrigal using the smaller data sample from this season rather than the larger data sample provided by his play from last season and this season. More data is better than less.
Don’t think so. I believe the jury is out on any player with less than one year in the league. That applies to Nico and Nick. You are the one that gleefully posted about Nico at the start of this season. Pretty sure if he didn’t go into a complete funk we would have had multiple more posts about how impressive he is. Hell, you said it two days ago as he was mired below 220. If can be so impressed with Nico at 220, why can’t I counter with Nick at 400?
I don’t run from my evaluations until I am convinced it is wrong. I am not at all convinced Yu has suddenly in a stretch like he had with Texas as a young man. His history shows he breaks down, spin it all you want, that’s a fact. He had a 7-11 record for the Cubbie coming into this year. Last time I checked there were full seasons in 18-19 and he mustered up 1 and 6 wins. You call that a bargain at $22M a year, I call it a fleecing. If he wins the Cy this year great, I would say he owes the team some production after stealing from them for 2 years.
I don’t run from my evaluations until I am convinced it is wrong. I am not at all convinced Yu has suddenly in a stretch like he had with Texas as a young man. His history shows he breaks down, spin it all you want, that’s a fact. He had a 7-11 record for the Cubbie coming into this year. Last time I checked there were full seasons in 18-19 and he mustered up 1 and 6 wins. You call that a bargain at $22M a year, I call it a fleecing. If he wins the Cy this year great, I would say he owes the team some production after stealing from them for 2 years.
Might want to actually make it a full season and add in the additional 9 starts that would get him to a full 30-start season. It's still nice, but doesn't really make him a top 5 in baseball. You need to do that over a longer period of time than Darvish has done. He's a career 3.50 ERA pitcher for a reason. He hasn't been able to do it over an extended period of time and he hasn't been able to do it in the playoffs. Father Time is probably going to catch up with him before he's able to harness that great stuff, but maybe he'll squeeze out a couple of seasons at the end of his career.
Totally. I think Nico's mid-600's career OPS is definitely a strong evaluator of his abilities. He's playing like a nice utility guy. A solid Danny Mendick/Leury Garcia kind of guy. Madrigal isn't likely to be a career 800 OPS guy, but his contact skills are likely to keep him as a high OBP guy. Hopefully Nico can retool to be an everyday starter.
Sox suck!Might want to actually make it a full season and add in the additional 9 starts that would get him to a full 30-start season. It's still nice, but doesn't really make him a top 5 in baseball. You need to do that over a longer period of time than Darvish has done. He's a career 3.50 ERA pitcher for a reason. He hasn't been able to do it over an extended period of time and he hasn't been able to do it in the playoffs. Father Time is probably going to catch up with him before he's able to harness that great stuff, but maybe he'll squeeze out a couple of seasons at the end of his career.
Totally. I think Nico's mid-600's career OPS is definitely a strong evaluator of his abilities. He's playing like a nice utility guy. A solid Danny Mendick/Leury Garcia kind of guy. Madrigal isn't likely to be a career 800 OPS guy, but his contact skills are likely to keep him as a high OBP guy. Hopefully Nico can retool to be an everyday starter.
Sox suck while sitting on top of there division. This is a year before their window truly is supposed to open. I can live with this type of sucking.
The beauty of it, is this years playoffs are a mulligan. A weird year but a total freebie for the South side. This doesn’t feel like a real season, but it is Last Chance U for the north side , because they have zero in the pipe.
Can we all at least agree that Joe West is the worst?
It’s like arguing with your buddy’s third grade brother.
He just screams and yells and hyperbolizes everything without citing or showing anything to support his argument. They need to do a case study on his brain
The Cubs wish they sucked like the White Sox. Third best record in baseball. Instead they just suck like the Cubs.
If the cubs start hitting, they might win everything this season. Sadly, their top 5 stars all aren't. Whether they will start is a mysteryThe Cubs wish they sucked like the White Sox. Third best record in baseball. Instead they just suck like the Cubs.
Both teams will have a playoff spot locked up long before then, so those games won't mean anything. Doubtful you see any starters pitch.
Good. I am surprisingly enjoying the season. I didn’t except anything from the Sox til next year so this is house money. What are the expectations for the Cubs these days? Is that dynasty thing still going?
Ain't even worth discussion at this point. Also - I forget the exact bet between myself and @corbi296 but Madrigal is mopping the floor on Hoerner in most categories
Mets and yankee fans too? Indian and Reds fans? Ok
you are half right, Flub fans are clueless
You got a point there. Willy can’t even figure out who is leading the AL in batting average and who WON the batting crown in 2019.
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