They didn’t call post hacks the whole game. They did call grabs on movement toward the basket.
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We're a school with a a lot of media focus/connections, and we have some analytical types as well. Seems that the only way to solve this would be to create some uncomfortable visibility that impugns the league: E.g. Could be that someone does the math, correlates bad calls like these to betting markets, then tells the story through a well-produced 60 second film that gets amplified through our alumni in media and shared on YouTube/etc. Key is that it not 'officially' come from the university. I know some will argue that this will make things worse - but the reality is that it's not going to get better unless and until we try something different. The only way this can happen is through some enterprise and effort from fans to tell the story.
All I'm saying is you can't control officiating. You can control the other stuff. We all know that was a bad no-call at the end. We played 29 pretty good minutes last night and we got our butts kicked in the other 11. That left us in a spot where we needed every single thing to go right in the last 3 minutes, which includes officials not making a bad call. I don't think that's outdated, that's just reality.
It’s actually a pattern of bad calls, again and again, in our direction throughout the game and impacting multiple games. It’s not just 1 bad call. We have to play so much better than the other team, often with a key player literally getting kicked out of the game for an insane technical foul. Or, taking game tying points off the board. Or keeping the whistle in your pocket when the Big Ten’s scoring leader is hacked to the floor.
Refs in the OSU Nebraska game missed a traveling OSU player who slid around on the side out (not baseline) on Nebraska's side of the floor with 3.3 seconds left in 2nd OT, with Nebraska down 3, and instead called a foul on Nebraska sending a 90% shooter to the line.
The refs are awful across the big ten. But it seems we are never the recipient of bad calls on the other team. Can you recall a game in which we got a ton of lucky breaks at the end of the game? Martinelli game winner vs Maryland, he had a questionable lifting of his pivot foot, and there was no call. That’s the closest I can think.
BIG refs are always in a hurry to call a jump ball. Any touching of the ball results in an immediate jump ball. They usually instinctively call fouls when a team that is losing is trapping at the end of the game as they did originally against Berry when it looked like he may have turned the guy over in the corner. Which is odd because when he was actually purposely grabbing the guy after the Martinelli no call the ref didn’t call a foul.
Btw I’ve heard these refs make 2-3k/game each. Five games a week, that can add up to 60k/month. Not suggesting it is an easy job. Definitely seems like a grind. But there should be a standard there. If anyone knows more about their income, I’d love to hear it.
Btw I’ve heard these refs make 2-3k/game each. Five games a week, that can add up to 60k/month. Not suggesting it is an easy job. Definitely seems like a grind. But there should be a standard there. If anyone knows more about their income, I’d love to hear it.
Wilbon went after the officiating on Pardon the Interruption last night. I am pretty sure he said NU got hosed by the officiating.
The no call on the push off by Pardon under the basket for our win against Michigan which got us our first tourney bid?
I’ve always thought they should work in crews like in football. Would iron out inconsistencies due to new groups of three each game. But I’m sure they like making their own schedules, even with the addition of Friday and Monday games and the nationwide travel making this all even more demanding.
I dunno if this is a reputable source, but this is what I found:
How much does a college basketball referee make? - California Learning Resource Network
How Much Does a College Basketball Referee Make? When it comes to college basketball, one of the most important and […]
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Division I (Top-level college basketball): $5,000 to $10,000 per game (average: $7,500)
- High-major conference games (e.g., NCAA Tournament, Big Ten, ACC): $8,000 to $12,000 per game
- Lower-major conference games: $5,000 to $8,000 per game
I’ve heard 2-3k a game.
Btw Woodson went off on refs after last nights Indiana game. Expletives were used.
21-7 ft margin in favor of Oregon.
Btw Woodson went off on refs after last nights Indiana game. Expletives were used.
21-7 ft margin in favor of Oregon.
Way to make something completely up to make a point on a message board. I’ll play:
“That should have been a 5 second call before Martinelli hit the buzzer beater.”
“Edey actually got fouled at the end of the Purdue game and should have been shooting an and 1”
“Brooks traveled against FAU on the last possession by shuffling his feet on the head fake before the drive.”
This is actually kind of fun.
Heh, Edey should have fouled out in the first half of every game we played against him the last two years just based on his hook-hold-and-pull offensive staples.
Ref botch of the night last night. Wisconsin Tonje literally plowed through a Minnesota defender, with no offensive foul, he then proceeded to take 6-8 steps and make a layup. Game was close at that time and he would have fouled out. Hard to believe the Minn defender wasn’t injured. Minnesota lost. They seem to have a horrendous call every night.
Yeah. I don’t see how there is no call on that play. Even if they called blocking (which it was not) would’ve been better than seeing that and doing nothing.
Reality is that bad calls are made against every program, Seems like more against us but we are invested in this program so maybe we notice it more. That said, we really don't know what goes on behind the scenes, I would guess that there are some significant conversations, You can lodge a complaint but it is like suing the government, Can't really do it unless they allow it. And frankly we just don't have that much weight to throw around so they know that they can just wait it out and we will go away because there are just not that many of us.
The refs should have and end of the season review and the bad ones removed but hard to say that will ever happen
Those FTs got him to 20 and as tight as the scoring race is might make a difference, And for CCC to get tossed would have them shooting 4 more FTs
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