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If it does so, it would be only by a hair, which may change as early as tomorrow.
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Which is why I added:
It would be fairer to say that (as of THIS season) NU is a middle-of-the-pack (literally) B1G team.
So can someone explain....
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If it does so, it would be only by a hair, which may change as early as tomorrow.
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Which is why I added:
It would be fairer to say that (as of THIS season) NU is a middle-of-the-pack (literally) B1G team.
Here is what I was replying to:
Currently means right now, not in 2 days time. And I agree that in addition to currently being top half, they are also currently in the middle if one defines upper as spots 1-4, middle as 5-10, and lower as 11-14.
Currently means right now, not in 2 days time. And I agree that in addition to currently being top half, they are also currently in the middle if one defines upper as spots 1-4, middle as 5-10, and lower as 11-14.
What part of:
If it does so, it would be only by a hair, which may change as early as tomorrow.
don't you understand?
I don't have to explain it. Jim Nantz, Bill Raftery, and Grant Hill can on Sunday. AND the following Sunday.
No question, the situation has changed for the better. The Cats really played a game tonight, right down to the amazing last shot. If they can keep this up on Saturday and through the B1G tourney, at least, one could definitely say the further is bright. One game bleeds into another in BB. I'm eating crow tonight, although hopefully duck by Saturday.
This is Northwestern sports. They'll take you away, then they'll bring you back, only to take you away again. Wake when we are Duke or Stanford.
Newsflash: do you think potential recruits like what they saw tonight. What a game and great play drawn up by Brian James and executed to perfection by Tap and Dererk. Unreal!
Reminiscent of another play drawn up by James and executed by Tre. Great to see when coaching and execution by the players works!
The atmosphere in Welsh Ryan tonight was electric all game long. How did it translate in TV for those who were not there?
Reminiscent of another play drawn up by James and executed by Tre. Great to see when coaching and execution by the players works!
The atmosphere in Welsh Ryan tonight was electric all game long. How did it translate in TV for those who were not there?
Drawn up by...? Who drew up the Hail Mary?--it's just something teams do, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Remember Nebraska football game two years ago? And the Minnesota football game in the 1990's?
No...it was a drawn play. Cleverly designed to appear we to looking for a halfcourt pass with Pardon setting two screens. But then streaks to the basketball and Taphorn hit him perfectly. It was the perfect storm of flawless execution on a nifty, gutsy, playcall.
Yes, nifty and gutsy, but I've seen it half a dozen times at least--there was nothing unique or designed about it. Maybe he drew it, but it was not unique.
It was a beautifully drawn up play. The best was that there was a switch which pitted Dererk against a smaller player. It also took advantage of Dererk's long arms and went to a player least expected to receive the ball. This was my vantage point. The reaction in the stadium was unbelievable.
Conceptually, this was a standard play in this situation--of course there was some subtlety to it.
No...the standard play (in a tie game) is to not risk a full court pass, but go half-court and take your chance on a long prayer. The full length pass was EXTREMELY risky because if it sailed long and nobody touched it, UM gets the ball under our basket with 1.7 still on the clock.
The playcall was fantastic, and the execution even better. It's okay to give the coaches (and players) some major credit for that one...
Even though you're on the east coast, obviously you are not familiar with Big Five Basketball--You know, Villanova, Lasalle, St. Joe's, Penn and Temple.
Or, you know, we win on some crazy awesome weird play that causes Sportscenter to lead with a 5-minute segment on us and the highlight of the play appears on every sports website in America.
Boy, the more I think about that play, the more I never want to see it again.
Did Michigan have any timeouts? So many things could have gone wrong. 5 seconds. The untouched "sail it long" throw. The "wind up, step into it but accidentally step on the line" throw. The random heave to half court caught by UM, with a quick timeout giving them a chance. Running the baseline in the heat of the moment. Even worse, a ref calling "traveling" on the inbounder for too many steps even though there's no such thing (does replay solve this one nowadays?)(although this is more a risk at lower levels).
All things considered, I think I'd like to keep that play a one-time, one-shot deal if that's OK. Even Coach K threw it to the free throw line and had two guys angling in to the boards from each side behind him (just in case)...
Sure, there was risk, but there's risk throwing short, too, and going into overtime. There's a three-foot-wide box for the person throwing the inbounds pass. He can dance around all he wants in the box and can go as far as he wants back.
BTW, I don't think Pardon traveled. The end-line replay, IMO, shows that he bobbles the ball for a fraction of a second before landing with both feet.
Agreed. He definitely didn't fully control the ball until his last two steps.
yeah i think you're just wrong here, it was actually quite clever. when Michigan called the return TO, Chris just handed the clipboard to James and backed away from the huddle.
James assumed that they had watched the tape from the Indiana game, so we faked the same play we ran at the end there -- BMac coming around on the big loop off a screen from Pardon like he was going to try to catch the pass moving in the right direction and put up a halfcourt shot.
but instead he had Pardon slip the second screen, after forcing the switch and with the attention directed back toward halfcourt. Dererk gets behind the defense and has a step which enables him to get position for the catch. Tap dropped in a dime, and Dererk converted.
it was quite subtle and creative and deceptive -- run the same type of action you had in the prior game to get the D's attention looking one way, but then throw in a wrinkle behind that to take advantage of that they are looking that direction. and of course the execution was perfect. nice work Coach! and even better work by the players!!
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Yeah, it did change. We're now solidly in the top half of the conference. AND WE ARE DANCING.
SUCK IT
All I'm saying is that Walker Fan made it sound like this play was invented by James, which it wasn't--It or something similar has been used before--I've seen it--the full court pass. In at least one case, it worked, in which the ball was thrown to right above the hoop and the player just dunked it for the score.. Was this amazing execution and a great, although risky, play to use in this situation?--Yes!
but it wasn't just a full court pass... it was all the other aspects of the play design which were creative and helped make it successful
No, you definately arent Felis. Sir Felis would never dredge up something as ridiculous as you have then bury his head in the sand as the world and closed his eyes.
How is it better? How about from the start. Stina or Mac?
How is it better? NCAA or stay at ho.e.
How is it better? Modern day facility upgrades vs same ole.
I want whatever you are drinking.
This is from the article LouV linked - Seems like coach James deserves a lot of credit.
Tears. Again. This time Northwestern assistant coach Brian James was on the verge of them.
James has been coaching basketball for nearly 40 years, early in his career at Glenbrook North High School, where he tutored a teenage Chris Collins, then as an assistant for five different NBA teams, most recently the Philadelphia 76ers. With Doug Collins, Chris’ father, on the way out in Philly in 2013, James joined Chris, his former player, at Northwestern.
Two hours later, James had a clipboard in his hands, 1.7 seconds to work with, and a chance at redemption. Four days earlier, he had been kicking himself.
Northwestern had the ball in a similar situation, down one, on the baseline 94 feet from its basket with two seconds on the clock at Assembly Hall. James had three or four plays in his back pocket for this very situation. He chose one. It was ultimately unsuccessful, and immediately he second-guessed himself: “If God ever gives me another chance to rectify that…” he thought, as the idea of the loss to Indiana keeping Northwestern out of the NCAA tournament gnawed at his mind.
Four days later, four days after he had chosen wrong, James’ prayer was answered. A second opportunity arose. He put marker to board, and drew up the play he knew he should’ve gone to in Bloomington.
But, ironically, if it had been his choice, he wouldn’t have had the clipboard at all. With Northwestern and Michigan tied, and with so little time remaining, James didn’t want to risk a turnover. Collins and assistant coach Armon Gates overruled him.
“My instincts,” Collins explained, “said, No, we gotta go for it.”
So James, an out-of-bounds play specialist, grabbed the board and went to work. He figured Michigan would double-team McIntosh, so he told Dererk Pardon to set cross screens for McIntosh and Lindsey, then to leak toward the rim. He told Nathan Taphorn that he absolutely could not airmail the baseball pass, for if it went out of bounds untouched, Michigan would get the ball back where the pass came from.
“We draw a lot of plays up for McIntosh,” James said. “And I just had a funny inkling that they would go small, they’d put the big guy on the ball, like Thomas Bryant was at Indiana last weekend, and so I had my fingers crossed, and hoped Taphorn would throw it high enough.”
“We didn’t even have a name,” Collins said of the play. “Never even practiced it.” Pardon confirmed: “We have never practiced that.”
Tears. Again. This time Northwestern assistant coach Brian James was on the verge of them.
James has been coaching basketball for nearly 40 years, early in his career at Glenbrook North High School, where he tutored a teenage Chris Collins, then as an assistant for five different NBA teams, most recently the Philadelphia 76ers. With Doug Collins, Chris’ father, on the way out in Philly in 2013, James joined Chris, his former player, at Northwestern.
Two hours later, James had a clipboard in his hands, 1.7 seconds to work with, and a chance at redemption. Four days earlier, he had been kicking himself.
Northwestern had the ball in a similar situation, down one, on the baseline 94 feet from its basket with two seconds on the clock at Assembly Hall. James had three or four plays in his back pocket for this very situation. He chose one. It was ultimately unsuccessful, and immediately he second-guessed himself: “If God ever gives me another chance to rectify that…” he thought, as the idea of the loss to Indiana keeping Northwestern out of the NCAA tournament gnawed at his mind.
Four days later, four days after he had chosen wrong, James’ prayer was answered. A second opportunity arose. He put marker to board, and drew up the play he knew he should’ve gone to in Bloomington.
But, ironically, if it had been his choice, he wouldn’t have had the clipboard at all. With Northwestern and Michigan tied, and with so little time remaining, James didn’t want to risk a turnover. Collins and assistant coach Armon Gates overruled him.
“My instincts,” Collins explained, “said, No, we gotta go for it.”
So James, an out-of-bounds play specialist, grabbed the board and went to work. He figured Michigan would double-team McIntosh, so he told Dererk Pardon to set cross screens for McIntosh and Lindsey, then to leak toward the rim. He told Nathan Taphorn that he absolutely could not airmail the baseball pass, for if it went out of bounds untouched, Michigan would get the ball back where the pass came from.
“We draw a lot of plays up for McIntosh,” James said. “And I just had a funny inkling that they would go small, they’d put the big guy on the ball, like Thomas Bryant was at Indiana last weekend, and so I had my fingers crossed, and hoped Taphorn would throw it high enough.”
“We didn’t even have a name,” Collins said of the play. “Never even practiced it.” Pardon confirmed: “We have never practiced that.”
Did you read my post? It was in the form of a question a week ago, from some guy (me) who just happened to turn on the TV long enough to watch Ill annoy (twice) and Indiana beat northwestern soundly, at the end of the season with the NCAA tourney on the line. Today it's better.
We are 6th in a 14-team conference, with a 1.5-game over .500 record. How is that being "solidly in the top half of the conference"?
As I said before, we re solidly in the middle of the pack of the conference (which is fairly good, given program history). That's far more accurate description of NU's stand in the B1G as of now.
Because there's fourteen teams in the B1G and half of that is 7. Therefore top half.
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