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The MKE Tip-Off Experience

macarthur31

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Having resided in Shorewood, WI for the past 13 years, when I saw that NU was in the words of Big & Rich, "...comin to my cit-a-y-yy," I had to splurge. Sure, it would've been the economically responsible play to pick off some cheap seats on gameday off one of the SeatStubGeekHubApps, but there is nothing rational about being a NU hoops fan. So, once I got the email from the NU Athletic Dept, I went over and gave Ticketmaster my money. Since I don't expect the 'Cats to 1)play 4 miles away from my house, and 2)play in such an intimate setting in front of me and 500 other fans that reside among the North North Shore, I went for the first row courtside seats.

Cousin Carl (my #1 go-to wingman on hoops game attendance not just because of blood, but also because he's coached high school/junior high hoops, so he's a great analyst to have in-person) and I were able to park on the street about two blocks away for free (Free Parking on Sunday!), and grabbed a bite at the one station that was open (only mainstream stadium fare) before taking our seats during the second half of the UWM-Akron game.

In my mindseye, courtside seats would mean I'd eagerly perform the role of Spike Lee superfan, dapping up Nicky Meatballs after every flipper and getting in the defensive stance alongside Matty Nix on crucial possessions. Unfortunately, my lack of fiserv forum layout knowledge (or, let's be real, my unwillingness to use google and actually research these things) revealed that courtside seats meant front row behind the scorer's table. To be specific, right smack dab behind where the official's review microphone is stationed. This meant I also had eyes on the monitor that had six cameras running simultaneously (which meant I knew if/when to mug it up when in-arena bits like "Beach Ball Cam" were running during timeouts.)

However, I was 10 feet away from the UWM bench - and from these seats I could witness the interplay between the assistant coaches, spy what they're writing on the greaseboards, and generally experience the vibes of a squad. For UWM it was going pretty good, and the UWM partisans behind me were doing their level best to energize the team. They were rewarded as after the final buzzer, the victorious Panthers did a lap through. our section to high five their faithful. I crouched in my seat as the fans behind me engaged the players. (Akin to those rare times I go to Catholic mass, and don't participate in Communion.). Anyway, I was hopeful that since UWM was the 'home' bench, that the 'Cats would also be that close.

Alas, as the 'Cats came out to warm-up and did it on our side of the court, a pang hit my stomach as I knew that teams usually played the first half at the basket away from their bench. Oh well.

The upper bowl, as well as the ends of the lower bowl were empty. Scorer table side had the majority of the fans, while the opposite side was probably half as much as us. The crowd was small, but reliably purple. Overall, while the 'Cats led wire to wire, from where I was sitting, it didn't feel that easy. Lance Terry is a guard with electric hops, and he'd hit these bailout stepback 3s after the 'Cats would play hard defense for most of the possession. Barnhizer's offensive inefficiency in the first half left alot of points on the table (and of course, we'd learn later a big reason for why he looked rusty). We seemed to rim out really good looks - we hit half of those in the first half, we could've been up 16-20 and that's likely when we woulda seen the frosh get run. Do the kids need minutes? Sure. However, the 'Cats need to lock down Ws - especially Semi-Home games against weaker P5 teams. Hopefully the starters can extend early leads in the next two non-cons so that our kids can get that precious in-game run. Other random takes:

  • Being that close to the action, I'm struck by power and speed these guys play with in such close quarters. That really was apparent to me in how our guys defended - Ty Berry really worked hard on several sequences and he did some real good things that aren't readily seen in the stat-sheet.
  • Damon Stoudamire is a really patient presence. Sure, he'd grimace back at his bench when he'd see his players not execute specific items, but for the most part he was positive. While the post-game dap up between he and Collins was brief, it looked to me genuine.
  • Ryan Mutombo is a large dude. Plus, this was the first time all season he got run, and looking at his kenpom history, the longest run since the '22 season when he was a frosh at Georgetown - 22 minutes MP, 10 on 8 shots, 7 reb, 1 blk. I don't know what took him so long to get such run, because he looked the part to me.
  • The one play review (the hard screen on Ty Berry) was really brief, and based on what I could see from the ref's review it was hard to discern anything higher than a common foul as well.
I saw there are comments like, "Why are they playing this there?" The way I look at it: it's a made for television type event, and a way to set up some competitive games with some area interest. (Both San Francisco and Loyola are in the kp 50s-100s, so that's actually a precious Quad 2 opp for them.) The 'Cats haven't been booking home and aways (we just wrapped up Dayton earlier), and with the demise of the ACC-B1G Showdown and Gavitt Games (Big East v B1G), this was a way to get another power conference foe on the schedule. Not just getting an actual win, but I saw this as a pretty good scheduling coup for the 'Cats. Finally, as a Milwaukee area resident, and college basketball sicko, this was just a treat. Let's run it back in '25!
 
I made the trip in part because I am coming back in early February with Little Hungry and his BFF for the Tyler the Creator show. I think it will be a great venue for the concert.

I thought the Cats performed quite well. The offense was sporadic, but the defense acquitted itself well against a team that had some size and athleticism.
 
Like the kids who get autographs from unknowns at minor league sports events, I would’ve gotten the high fives from the Panthers.

But geez, could you imagine if someone opted in to holy communion? I was probably two years deep before I could get that stuff down with regularity.
 
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Ty Berry was solid on defense....given his size, he was an absolute beast.

The recommendation to not start him, or give others his minutes because he's not hitting shots at the same clip as last year is the clearest way to say, "I don't know much about basketball" without saying "I don't know much about basketball.

It's so critical for NU players to be in the right spot. Sounds simple, but the first year guys really don't show that consistently (talking about the last few years). It's tough to learn, takes a ton of practice and confidence.
 
Ty Berry was solid on defense....given his size, he was an absolute beast.

The recommendation to not start him, or give others his minutes because he's not hitting shots at the same clip as last year is the clearest way to say, "I don't know much about basketball" without saying "I don't know much about basketball.

It's so critical for NU players to be in the right spot. Sounds simple, but the first year guys really don't show that consistently (talking about the last few years). It's tough to learn, takes a ton of practice and confidence.
He'd get switched off onto bigger wings, and he was able to body them up and harrass them into missed shots. He put in 36 minutes, and pulled down 5 defensive rebounds, and had ZERO fouls. Per Torvik he was +9.5 on Box Plus/Minus behind Barnhizer's +11.2.

He's more than just a strong 3pt shooter, he's become a legit two-way guard. To your point, he's earned his spot, and he's the key for the 'Cats to break through to the top half of the B1G table.
 
Thanks for the great write-up! I don't get to see the Cats in person all that often, but the one time last year when they came to Connecticut and I got to see them, that is what really stuck out to me too - how hard our guys work on defense. You can sort of see it on tv, but it is really clear in person. I don't remember thinking that so much in the past. I think that is one feature of this generation of CCC teams that we didn't have with past coaches - these guys bust their asses.
 
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Ty Berry was solid on defense....given his size, he was an absolute beast.

The recommendation to not start him, or give others his minutes because he's not hitting shots at the same clip as last year is the clearest way to say, "I don't know much about basketball" without saying "I don't know much about basketball.

A lot of that "Bench Berry" talk was around the time Barnhizer was returning, if I remember right. Berry was/is coming off a significant injury and also had been trying to adjust to playing without Barnhizer and Buie, but with Leach. And he wasn't playing very well. (He is a supporting cast member, as Michael Jordan would put it)

But the effectiveness of the starting lineup since Barnhizer's return has been too good to mess with - there really isn't a viable alternative so far.

Nothing wrong with rooting for Mullins or Windham or Ciaravino to force Collins to play him, though.
 
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Other details I recall:
  • Watching how the Georgia Tech coaching staff set up their area. The grad assistants had these Georgia Tech two-pocket folders, and they'd pull out signage that they'd set up - among them, the photos of the referees and their names, and it was magnet posted on the scorer's table.
  • During the Loyola-SF game, one of the Don's got cut and started bleeding. Play was stopped and he was being tended to, one of the Loyola fans behind me exhorted: "HE'S GOTTA SIT. HE'S BLEEDING." That was met with an immediate response from a fan sitting in the opposite side facing us: "HE'S GOT 30 SECONDS TO GET THIS ADDRESSED. IT'S FINE." Several of us in our section started cracking up at this exchange, as I am not used to fans talking to each other almost 30 yards apart at a sporting event.
 
Having resided in Shorewood, WI for the past 13 years, when I saw that NU was in the words of Big & Rich, "...comin to my cit-a-y-yy," I had to splurge. Sure, it would've been the economically responsible play to pick off some cheap seats on gameday off one of the SeatStubGeekHubApps, but there is nothing rational about being a NU hoops fan. So, once I got the email from the NU Athletic Dept, I went over and gave Ticketmaster my money. Since I don't expect the 'Cats to 1)play 4 miles away from my house, and 2)play in such an intimate setting in front of me and 500 other fans that reside among the North North Shore, I went for the first row courtside seats.

Cousin Carl (my #1 go-to wingman on hoops game attendance not just because of blood, but also because he's coached high school/junior high hoops, so he's a great analyst to have in-person) and I were able to park on the street about two blocks away for free (Free Parking on Sunday!), and grabbed a bite at the one station that was open (only mainstream stadium fare) before taking our seats during the second half of the UWM-Akron game.

In my mindseye, courtside seats would mean I'd eagerly perform the role of Spike Lee superfan, dapping up Nicky Meatballs after every flipper and getting in the defensive stance alongside Matty Nix on crucial possessions. Unfortunately, my lack of fiserv forum layout knowledge (or, let's be real, my unwillingness to use google and actually research these things) revealed that courtside seats meant front row behind the scorer's table. To be specific, right smack dab behind where the official's review microphone is stationed. This meant I also had eyes on the monitor that had six cameras running simultaneously (which meant I knew if/when to mug it up when in-arena bits like "Beach Ball Cam" were running during timeouts.)

However, I was 10 feet away from the UWM bench - and from these seats I could witness the interplay between the assistant coaches, spy what they're writing on the greaseboards, and generally experience the vibes of a squad. For UWM it was going pretty good, and the UWM partisans behind me were doing their level best to energize the team. They were rewarded as after the final buzzer, the victorious Panthers did a lap through. our section to high five their faithful. I crouched in my seat as the fans behind me engaged the players. (Akin to those rare times I go to Catholic mass, and don't participate in Communion.). Anyway, I was hopeful that since UWM was the 'home' bench, that the 'Cats would also be that close.

Alas, as the 'Cats came out to warm-up and did it on our side of the court, a pang hit my stomach as I knew that teams usually played the first half at the basket away from their bench. Oh well.

The upper bowl, as well as the ends of the lower bowl were empty. Scorer table side had the majority of the fans, while the opposite side was probably half as much as us. The crowd was small, but reliably purple. Overall, while the 'Cats led wire to wire, from where I was sitting, it didn't feel that easy. Lance Terry is a guard with electric hops, and he'd hit these bailout stepback 3s after the 'Cats would play hard defense for most of the possession. Barnhizer's offensive inefficiency in the first half left alot of points on the table (and of course, we'd learn later a big reason for why he looked rusty). We seemed to rim out really good looks - we hit half of those in the first half, we could've been up 16-20 and that's likely when we woulda seen the frosh get run. Do the kids need minutes? Sure. However, the 'Cats need to lock down Ws - especially Semi-Home games against weaker P5 teams. Hopefully the starters can extend early leads in the next two non-cons so that our kids can get that precious in-game run. Other random takes:

  • Being that close to the action, I'm struck by power and speed these guys play with in such close quarters. That really was apparent to me in how our guys defended - Ty Berry really worked hard on several sequences and he did some real good things that aren't readily seen in the stat-sheet.
  • Damon Stoudamire is a really patient presence. Sure, he'd grimace back at his bench when he'd see his players not execute specific items, but for the most part he was positive. While the post-game dap up between he and Collins was brief, it looked to me genuine.
  • Ryan Mutombo is a large dude. Plus, this was the first time all season he got run, and looking at his kenpom history, the longest run since the '22 season when he was a frosh at Georgetown - 22 minutes MP, 10 on 8 shots, 7 reb, 1 blk. I don't know what took him so long to get such run, because he looked the part to me.
  • The one play review (the hard screen on Ty Berry) was really brief, and based on what I could see from the ref's review it was hard to discern anything higher than a common foul as well.
I saw there are comments like, "Why are they playing this there?" The way I look at it: it's a made for television type event, and a way to set up some competitive games with some area interest. (Both San Francisco and Loyola are in the kp 50s-100s, so that's actually a precious Quad 2 opp for them.) The 'Cats haven't been booking home and aways (we just wrapped up Dayton earlier), and with the demise of the ACC-B1G Showdown and Gavitt Games (Big East v B1G), this was a way to get another power conference foe on the schedule. Not just getting an actual win, but I saw this as a pretty good scheduling coup for the 'Cats. Finally, as a Milwaukee area resident, and college basketball sicko, this was just a treat. Let's run it back in '25!
This is a great report - thanks!
 
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The upper level wasn't just empty, it was blocked off with no attempt (or need) to sell seats there.

Sorry you didn't come to the pregame Alumni Association event at Good City Brewing. Much more food choice than at the arena (amazed that so little was open) with drinks included in the price, which was quite reasonable (don't remember the exact amount).
 
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Other details I recall:
  • Watching how the Georgia Tech coaching staff set up their area. The grad assistants had these Georgia Tech two-pocket folders, and they'd pull out signage that they'd set up - among them, the photos of the referees and their names, and it was magnet posted on the scorer's table.
  • During the Loyola-SF game, one of the Don's got cut and started bleeding. Play was stopped and he was being tended to, one of the Loyola fans behind me exhorted: "HE'S GOTTA SIT. HE'S BLEEDING." That was met with an immediate response from a fan sitting in the opposite side facing us: "HE'S GOT 30 SECONDS TO GET THIS ADDRESSED. IT'S FINE." Several of us in our section started cracking up at this exchange, as I am not used to fans talking to each other almost 30 yards apart at a sporting event.
A third guy said something like “rules. Living in a society”. It was hilarious because it was so quiet
 
Ty Berry was solid on defense....given his size, he was an absolute beast.

The recommendation to not start him, or give others his minutes because he's not hitting shots at the same clip as last year is the clearest way to say, "I don't know much about basketball" without saying "I don't know much about basketball.

It's so critical for NU players to be in the right spot. Sounds simple, but the first year guys really don't show that consistently (talking about the last few years). It's tough to learn, takes a ton of practice and confidence.
The discourse wasn’t “bench him no matter what”. It was “if he keeps playing like this CCC has some decisions to make on whether to bench him.” He was slow coming off screens and moving laterally and putrid from 3.

He had a nice game against GT on both sides of the floor. He also had 0 points and 4 PF along with 0 blocks 0 steals and 1 rebound in 24 minutes the game before (Illinois).
He had a great game against Iowa and a bad game against UNLV.

If we’re going to go to the tournament he is going to have to contribute on defense AND offense and for him that’s hitting 3s. He hasn’t done that consistently and against the better teams shooting poorly has been the rule not the exception.
 
The discourse wasn’t “bench him no matter what”. It was “if he keeps playing like this CCC has some decisions to make on whether to bench him.” He was slow coming off screens and moving laterally and putrid from 3.

He had a nice game against GT on both sides of the floor. He also had 0 points and 4 PF along with 0 blocks 0 steals and 1 rebound in 24 minutes the game before (Illinois).
He had a great game against Iowa and a bad game against UNLV.

If we’re going to go to the tournament he is going to have to contribute on defense AND offense and for him that’s hitting 3s. He hasn’t done that consistently and against the better teams shooting poorly has been the rule not the exception.
Robbie Hummel, who went through a similar injury, is not surprised by Berry’s inconsistency thus far and has a lot of optimism for Berry as the season progress and the injury becomes more of a thing of the past.
 
There were definitely a few people saying Berry should be benched.

And as Gordie pointed out, Robbie Hummel was sympathetic to Berry's inconsistency in an earlier broadcast, saying something like "It can take awhile to get back... somedays you feel like your legs aren't there at all."
 
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