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I'd rather have a really sh*tty game from our players once or twice than to get blindfolded, bent over, leveraged and made to squeal like a hamster by a bunch of grinning referees any day of the week.

Jonny2TheP said:

Zero positive in that game. Not making that argument. But it was a tough game coming off a brutal loss. We didn’t show up. We weren’t competitive. But just a bad day. Regroup. Move on. Have a good week of practice.

It makes our margin of error smaller, but I actually feel better about this than the PSU game. Sometimes you’re just off. We have a veteran club that won’t carry that over to next weekend.

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Not sure I agree. I think this game showed what we've been seeing the last couple games that teams will double team both Nick and Barney and that causes them some issues with turnovers etc. If we can't get other reliable scoring options we will have difficulty winning games in the future. Hopefully based on what was seen today Collins will play Jello more.

Was it a benching, or just saving energy for bigger battles down the road?

The game was over before the half.

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SmellyCat said:

I think benching Berry and Nicholson at the start of the second half speaks volumes. Leach barely played in the second half as well.

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Might be time to start thinking about the future. I just don't think this year's version has enough, which sucks for Barny, but true.

Great to see Gelo emerge. His table is ready.

The time to hit the panic button is if we lose at home to MSU.

Bardo said something which is very true: every team has 3 to 4 games where things really don’t go well. Go back and think about previous seasons and we had those. Let’s hope this is the case here. We played in the toughest arena in the conference.

I don’t know if we are a tourney team, but I think we have the talent to get to 10 wins.

jensberg said:

I don't think so. Collins is not that easy to sway based on recent performance.

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I think benching Berry and Nicholson at the start of the second half speaks volumes. Leach barely played in the second half as well.

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SmellyCat said:

Would not be surprised if there’s a new starting lineup against MSU.

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I don't think so. Collins is not that easy to sway based on recent performance.

Would not be surprised if there’s a new starting lineup against MSU.

jensberg said:

Also they need to play Jello more for sure. He's a very reasonable three-point shooter, has some height and is getting better at understanding the game flow.

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Like a LOT more. His athleticism is a huge advantage that nobody else can provide. Plus he's a good 3pt shooter.

SmellyCat said:

Yep, me too. That's why we need Berry to take/hit open shots.

I'd like to know why Smith's and-one was considered in the act but Barnhizer's against Butler was not. That foul today happened before he even went up.

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Also they need to play Jello more for sure. He's a very reasonable three-point shooter, has some height and is getting better at understanding the game flow.

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jensberg said:

The concern I have is teams know enough now to double Nick and Barney and basically after them we have limited to no offense

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Yep, me too. That's why we need Berry to take/hit open shots.

I'd like to know why Smith's and-one was considered in the act but Barnhizer's against Butler was not. That foul today happened before he even went up.

SmellyCat said:

I still see it. Not today of course, but they're good enough to sneak in. The problem is they don't consistently put it all together.

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The concern I have is teams know enough now to double Nick and Barney and basically after them we have limited to no offense

I believe we finished second for Wolf when it came to his transfer, which absolutely blows given what a stud he is.

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jensberg said:

I'm just asking but do people think this team is really a tournament team from all you've seen this year? They have flashes of that quality but I am not sure I see I'm getting enough Big Ten wins.

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I still see it. Not today of course, but they're good enough to sneak in. The problem is they don't consistently put it all together.

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Now I just want Barney to get a double-double and Martinelli to not be shut out. This feels like a game where Jello leads the team in scoring.

Hunger started second half over Nicholson, who sat out most of the first half. Collins must REALLY want the "offense" Hunger provides.

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I'm just asking but do people think this team is really a tournament team from all you've seen this year? They have flashes of that quality but I am not sure I see I'm getting enough Big Ten wins.

While their on campus place is a morgue and throw in no students back yet, I saw some on their board not happy with moving this “home” game. Chambers started doing this a few years back after his top 3 players were all Philly guys and wanted more exposure there to recruit. No clue if it’s working that way or not, but would think the current coach, who’s a good one, could stop doing it if he wanted.

Didn’t get to watch. Will have to watch the highlights tonight. I did do a ticket search this morning and was very reasonable…$15-$75. Surprisingly, looks like Woody had his team ready to go today, even without Reneau.