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My column: Fouls disparity vs. PSU nothing new for Northwestern

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combes said:
January 4, 2023 at Northwestern. Northwestern shoots 40 free throws. Illinois shoots 10.

It’s easy to forget when your team gets that advantage at home.
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That was an interesting game. One of the few games that Cats have played where the refs actually blew whistles when the Cats opponents repeatedly threw them to the ground, tore their shirts, bloodied their arms, and body slammed them out of bounds, while at the same time Boo and Ty kept getting away with suplexing Shannon and Dainja.

I'm sure to you that seems just like last night's game.

But you may be biased.
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Gronowski

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Purple Pile Driver said:
As far as point #2 goes, if Gronowski wanted to be with Lujan at NU we would have known that long before we went after Stone. Whether he was officially in the portal or not.

I tend to agree with your preference of Stone over Gronowski. However, if Gronowski ends up at Iowa and we don’t add a couple of starter quality players on OL and WR, I wouldn’t be surprised at all in Gronowski had a better year.
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Fair point. I’m confident we will land additional OL and WR. Will be interesting.
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Officiating in this game

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At 7:04-7:05 of the above clip, you can see the ball in the cylinder when #14 hits the rim with his hand and again on his follow thru, so hits the rim twice. How can that not be goal tending? And the camera angle is really good imho.

I will say, with all my raging on the refs, if Ty had made the shot or Leach had dunked after, we'd have an entirely different set of bad ref calls deciding the game on the other end to complain about.
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Gronowski

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gocatsgo2003 said:
1) Gronowski got a lot of NIL money from SDSU to come back there, plus he was going for a 3-peat that would’ve put him on the Mount Rushmore of all-time FCS greats.

2) Gronowski didn’t enter the portal until after Stone had committed to NU. I’m sure we would have recruited him had he entered before or simultaneously with Stone.
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As far as point #2 goes, if Gronowski wanted to be with Lujan at NU we would have known that long before we went after Stone. Whether he was officially in the portal or not.

I tend to agree with your preference of Stone over Gronowski. However, if Gronowski ends up at Iowa and we don’t add a couple of starter quality players on OL and WR, I wouldn’t be surprised at all in Gronowski had a better year.
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Why was Nicholson in at the end?

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curdog said:
It if I’m PSU and I see him on the court, I cover the other 4 and leave him open. He gets the inbounds and then gets fouled.
I still don’t get it.
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Sure, and you could just foul him immediately away from the ball and put him on the line with a risk of OT vs. huge odds he'll go 1 of 2 from the line.

I don't know why he was in there, so I can only assume the play included an alley oop option or put back.
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Takeaways: Cats drop another heartbreaker on the road

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The play was a disaster, with Matt Nicholson putting the ball on the floor and driving baseline before his attempted pass was intercepted by Ace Baldwin Jr. Baldwin made both free throws to produce the final margin.
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Is that how it happened? What I saw was Nicholson's defender grab his arm, shove him out of bounds, and the refs called that a Northwestern turnover. Then Brooks fouled Ace on the inbound pass. One of the only actual fouls committed by the Cats.
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Maybe the bye in the playoffs isn't an advantage.

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Sheffielder said:
While I tend to agree with this, I would also agree with anyone who says conference championship games are of questionable value (besides monetary), especially in an expanded playoff model.
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Except teams playing in them seem to value them. I didn't see anyone sitting out a Championship game to be healthy for the playoffs, and UGA got hurt big time as a result. Championship games were also better attended than the Quarterfinals, FWIW.......
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My column: Fouls disparity vs. PSU nothing new for Northwestern

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Fouls disparity vs. Penn State nothing new for Northwestern

Penn State took 45 free throws to beat the Cats. Why aren't the Wildcats getting the benefit of more whistles?
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Can you imagine if Purdue or Indiana lost a game with the opponent shooting 45 free throws?!? The BTN would do an hour long special investigation about it that would loop throughout the day.

On Edit: Also, I think these refs had brain damage because of the Covid vaccine
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Officiating in this game

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PurpleWhiteBoy said:
The Big Ten issued a statement that you can touch the rim as long as the ball isn't "in the basket" or "in contact with the rim."

I found the rulebook...

Section 15. Basket Interference and Goaltending
Art. 1. It is a violation to commit basket interference or goaltending.
Art. 2. Basket interference.

a. Basket interference occurs when a player:

1. Touches the ball or any part of the basket while the ball is on or within the basket. If the touching of the basket involves contact with the net only, the official must determine if the touching had any effect on the ball which would rise to the level of basket interference;
2. Touches the ball while any part of it is within the cylinder that has the ring as its lower base;
3. Reaches through the basket from below and touches the ball before it enters the cylinder;
4. Pulls down a movable ring so that it contacts the ball before the ring returns to its original position; and
5. Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is on or within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder.

b. The cylinder is the imaginary geometric figure that has the ring as its base and is formed by the upward extension of that ring.
c. The ball shall be considered to be within the basket when any part of the ball is below the cylinder and the level of the ring
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  • Where can one see this Big Ten statement you are referencing, PurpleWhiteBoy?

  • This is where it's a judgment call: "Basket interference occurs when a player... Causes the basket or backboard to vibrate when the ball is... in the cylinder"... both Penn State players hit the rim / backboard, and particularly given the way the rim was contacted by #14 (he hits the rim straight on and then his hand slides along the front side of the rim to the left) and the ball being in the cylinder at that time, the refs could have made that judgment call (which would have matched the result that was actually the fair result -- no one can say with a straight face the whistle at 6.1 actually affected the result of the play)
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