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BREAKING: NU lands three-star Ohio TE Tyler Kielmeyer

Is that like our 8th TE this class? Interesting…
Well it is only three but is sure seems like a lot. Hopefully at least one of them can play another position as well as that sure seems like a lot of resources committed to a single position, especially since we already have a few others on the roster including three in the last two classes

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

As others pointed out - the clown show was the handling of the Fitzgerald termination.

USU did a much better job. No sordid rumors to drag the whole program through the mud, no attempt to shame the coach or former players, none of the BS that Schill and Gragg perpetrated.
As far as I know, the student newspaper was not involved.
All we know is that the USU head coach was aware of an incident involving either domestic violence or sexual misconduct and someone associated with the team. It may have been a player, it may have been one of the guys who got fired. The head coach did some sort of investigation and didn't report the incident properly. So USU intends to fire him, after he gets 2 weeks to make his case.

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

The “clown show” part is that USU knew how to properly meet their contractual notification obligations to mitigate exposure vs. NU that did not and opened itself to tens of millions of dollars in damages as a result.

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

The only thing that Utah State has/did wrong is that one of the reasons they're firing the head coach is that he had the audacity to look into the allegations on his own.

Having rules that prohibit such fact-finding attempts is directly counter to the argument "he should have known." You can't have it both ways - either the coach gets to look into the allegations or you can't use that pathetic "he should have known" argument.

Internal rules are usually pretty cut and dried when it comes to accusations of sexual misconduct: report to Title IX. Do not pass Go, do not hesitate, that’s not your job.

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.
I’m not really interested in the particulars of the case. Im looking at how the administration handled the situation. That’s where is NU is a clown show

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

This story is on the ESPN website...

Apparently somebody associated with the Utah State football team was accused of sexual misconduct or domestic violence in Spring of 2023.
The head coach was made aware of the problem.
The coach investigated.
He appears to have not reported the allegations to the school in a timely manner.
Both "investigating" and "not reporting" violate university policy.
An external investigation was conducted.

The university notified the coach of their intent to fire him, but gave him 14 days to respond, in accordance with his employment agreement.
The Deputy athletic director and director of player development were also fired. Presumably they were part of the cover-up.
The defensive coordinator has been named interim coach for the 2024 season.
Athletic Director Diana Sabau met with the team and the football staff Tuesday to inform them of the news.
(apparently she addressed the team in her human form, not her digital form)

Its pretty sad that we are clowns compared to Utah State.

Yeah… that’s basic procedural HR stuff that NU apparently couldn’t be bothered to do, now will cost millions.

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

The only thing that Utah State has/did wrong is that one of the reasons they're firing the head coach is that he had the audacity to look into the allegations on his own.

Having rules that prohibit such fact-finding attempts is directly counter to the argument "he should have known." You can't have it both ways - either the coach gets to look into the allegations or you can't use that pathetic "he should have known" argument.
NU football is definitely not “a clown” compared to Utah State. NU is coming off a bowl win, with tremendous recruiting momentum, two years coming of a unique stadium situation, followed by opening what will become the model for every college football stadium to follow. NU football is in its best position since its coach, ironically, said “I’m staying here for life” or whatever.

Do you really think he “looked into allegations on his own”? Or do you think he downplayed to keep a player eligible?

There is no comparison to what happened at USU and at NU. Sounds like a USU football player was accused of sexual assault or rape, the allegation was brought to the football coach, and he “investigated” (“hey 24, did you rape this chick” “okay great”) and didn’t move any further.

Or, perhaps, he coordinated with the other two who were also fired to downplay or bury the story. He prevented an investigation from happening. Nobody is saying “he should have known” an off-premise assault may have occurred; they are saying that he violated policy by not involving the right people. (It’s what Paterno should’ve been fired for, kind of, before he mercifully died to spare himself the embarrassment.)

In the case of NU, the activity was happening in Fitz’s building. “Known or should have known” is a reasonable threshold when it’s happening down the hall.


Anyway, the university is financially solvent, the stadium is on track, the new head coach has all the positive qualities the former coach once had.

The Fitz firing was a tremendous change that, once everyone got over the shock, energized the program and contributed to what appears to be a recruiting class stacked with A-listers.

AND, Fitz will be able to attend his son’s regular season and playoff games all season long without openly shirking his responsibilities as a head football coach!

Gosh winning is so fun.

Deja Vu? Utah State fires football coach

Sounds like there was due process here. How refreshing.
The only thing that Utah State has/did wrong is that one of the reasons they're firing the head coach is that he had the audacity to look into the allegations on his own.

Having rules that prohibit such fact-finding attempts is directly counter to the argument "he should have known." You can't have it both ways - either the coach gets to look into the allegations or you can't use that pathetic "he should have known" argument.

Northwestern publishes report by Loretta Lynch on culture of athletics

Revenue sport athletes haven't had an experience that remotely resembles the experience of a normal student at any major school for many decades and most non-revenue scholarshipped students are similarly incomparable to a normal student unless you give that student a 40 hour a week work-study job. This has been the case for decades, pearl-wringing about it is silly and obnoxious.
I think you're overstating it.
Obviously, you are closer to the truth when the team is in the middle of its season, but even then, I still think you're overstating it.
Especially for non-revenue athletes.
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