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cedricmelons said:

Anybody know when and where we can watch it? Hopefully he is lighting up the officials.

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Collins won't. He almost did that once after the Gonzaga screw job, but stopped short. He'll just continue playing the "nice guy" act with Big Ten officials...

• And they'll continue to screw NU season, after season, after season
• Fran McCaffrey once found the Big Ten refs in the tunnel after the game and screamed "You cheating motherf***er!" You're a f***ing disgrace!"... well, now Iowa gets treated fairly
• PSU coach Mike Rhoades has zero history in the Big Ten, he's two years in, and noww his team gets a whistle against NU like nothing I've ever seen
• NU suffered one of the craziest screw jobs I've ever seen in the closing seconds. What does Collins do? He remains docile and shakes hands. Well, I hope the nice guy routine makes him lots of friends. It doesn't get him calls
• Frankly, NU fans have to question: "If Collins doesn't care enough to get fired up and show some real emotion, why should we?"

hdhntr1 said:

I think the rule is if the ball is in the air any touching of the rim is auto goal tending.

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But what if the shot is blocked before the rim is touched?

cedricmelons said:

I thought that at first as well, but if Leach's shot was blocked (as they called after the review), is it still possible for #14 to goal tend?

Not trying to be contrarian, but honestly don't know the correct call there. I think it might be a loose ball after the blocked shot?

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I think the rule is if the ball is in the air in the cylinder any touching of the rim is auto goal tending.

He was very diplomatic, as he should be.

What he needs to say he can do so in private quarters with conference representatives.

cedricmelons said:

Anybody know when and where we can watch it? Hopefully he is lighting up the officials.

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He doesn't dare. That said I am sure that tape will be sent to the supervisor of BIG officials. But at this point an appology is likely all they can get

PSU reached the bonus 7:20 into the first half and 3:38 into the second half. I don’t think I remember that happening so quickly in each half, even against the Purdue teams with Zach Edey.

Davidgolds5 said:

made mistake of rewatching the play-

Let’s forget the ridiculous no call on the REAL goaltend earlier.

Bit on the final play-

They messed up the play by calling a goaltend when they didn’t see one.

On the review-
BB had already released the ball when the whistle blew.
They also missed #14 hitting the rim with his arm which should have been a goaltend.

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I thought that at first as well, but if Leach's shot was blocked (as they called after the review), is it still possible for #14 to goal tend?

Not trying to be contrarian, but honestly don't know the correct call there. I think it might be a loose ball after the blocked shot?

Davidgolds5 said:

made mistake of rewatching the play-

Let’s forget the ridiculous no call on the REAL goaltend earlier.

Bit on the final play-

They messed up the play by calling a goaltend when they didn’t see one.

On the review-
BB had already released the ball when the whistle blew.
They also missed #14 hitting the rim with his arm which should have been a goaltend.

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So they missed that call several different ways.

cedricmelons said:

We could very easily be 12-2/2-1 and ranked right now were it not for some horrible late game officiating.

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Yes, and it could be 9-5/0-3. I'd rather have the IL win than the PSU win.

corbi296 said:

Clawson's formula for success was similar to Fitz's and just does not work as well in the era of NIL and the portal. He'll need to adjust and it might be easier to do that with a team in the Big Ten where resources ($$$) are more plentiful than in the ACC.

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Not exactly, the foundation of Clawson's success at Wake was rolling out some pretty good O-lines.

Purple Pile Driver said:

Please retract that Mike Tomlin vibe. I got big time Matt Eberflus vibe on that last drive. Bears have the Worst NFL coaching I can remember.

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If going for the Tomlin vibe, Fitz is the college equivalent of Tomlin (more on that later), except for the not having losing seasons part (which is soooooo overrated).

Jonny2TheP said:

Me too. It actually bothers my other NU fan friends/family how much I won’t get down on refs for calls and their impact on a game. I have a reputation in the group of being that guy.

But this game truly was decided by the refs. And it’s too bad, cause it could have been a great game without them stealing the show with so many one-sided bad calls.

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Refs have not really been our friends this year, They have decided more than one game against us. at the end of games

made mistake of rewatching the play-

Let’s forget the ridiculous no call on the REAL goaltend earlier.

Bit on the final play-

They messed up the play by calling a goaltend when they didn’t see one.

On the review-
BB had already released the ball when the whistle blew.
They also missed #14 hitting the rim with his arm which should have been a goaltend.

NUera said:

I rarely say this, but the refs really did decide the game with their poor officiating

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Me too. It actually bothers my other NU fan friends/family how much I won’t get down on refs for calls and their impact on a game. I have a reputation in the group of being that guy.

But this game truly was decided by the refs. And it’s too bad, cause it could have been a great game without them stealing the show with so many one-sided bad calls.

hdhntr1 said:

It was even worse if you saw the whole game, PSU was in the double bonus in the first half in the first 8 minutes. They were in the bonus very quickly in second half too. And we had 3 fouls on Barnhizer, Leach, and 3 on Berry quickly changing complexion of the game early. Luckily our Frosh came in and were not phased (though they had them in foul trouble as well.

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In the second half, it took all of four and a half minutes for them to get in the bonus. They were in the double bonus within seven minutes and 15 seconds.

So Penn State was in the double bonus for 25 of the 40 minutes of the game. As I said in another thread, it’s actually pretty remarkable we were that close and had a chance to win it in the closing seconds considering that fact above and the two bad goaltending related calls. Says a lot about the team’s resilience, but there’s only so much you can overcome.

ThatkidfromHolland said:

Two hands on Matt pushing him out off bounds no call after the goaltend debacle. Sucks when refs impact a game like that.

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I rarely say this, but the refs really did decide the game with their poor officiating

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PurpleWhiteBoy said:

My computer algorithm is telling me PSU 72 NU 68...
Torvik says PSU 73 NU 70

NU has played a few games without Barnhizer, so we're better than our rating....
So I'll go NU 71 PSU 70

But the little voice in my head is laughing "You know its a bad matchup! Don't be such a homer..."

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But it is a road game

cedricmelons said:

They're not going to intentionally foul with a 2 point lead.

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He is a career 45% FT shooter who banked one in earlier in the game. It’s the smart play

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NJcatsfan said:

Setting aside the insane phantom whistle/stolen bucket and the missed obvious foul at the end, Penn State scored 43% of its point total from free throws. They had 45 FTs awarded. That is egregious.

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Don't forget the Goal Tending No Call earlier in the game