TheC said:

I'm confused about how all this works. Do the college players actually sign contracts?

Our grad students in my program here get a stipend and benefits. Though they are students and not employees, it is very much set up like an employer/employee relationship with a standard agreement. Not sure why this stuff with college athletes can't be more regulated and organized. No pro player would play without a contract.

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Gatabowl said:

It’s been so embarrassing that applications and donations have skyrocketed.

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The Deion Sanders effect: Colorado sees record number of applications, including 50% spike from Black students

High school students want them some Coach Prime.

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AdamOnFirst said:

Gambling was illegal during all of that, so much good that prohibition did.

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TheC said:

I'm confused about how all this works. Do the college players actually sign contracts?

Our grad students in my program here get a stipend and benefits. Though they are students and not employees, it is very much set up like an employer/employee relationship with a standard agreement. Not sure why this stuff with college athletes can't be more regulated and organized. No pro player would play without a contract.

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AdamOnFirst said:

From what I've seen stupidity/culpability on the part of the Sluka campt too. Their claim is that the UNLV OC "verbally promised" him "at least $100,000" if he came to UNLV. Sluka, his family, and his agent's next act was to... enroll at UNLV and start (after finishing his degree at Holy Cross, missing spring practice). He didn't say okay, set up a meeting with the collective, he didn't ask to talk to the donors, he didn't even talk to the head coach.

Finally like months later they offered him $12,000 and he went to the head coach, who basically told him that whatever the OC said didn't count.

Even if it was the head coach, the head coach doesn't hold the check book and doesn't make the payment. You say okay, set up a meeting with the collective, are you allowed to attend? They're who you're actually directly dealing with. I understand the coach maybe has to commit to helping raise the money or whatever. But some OC says something verbally and you just act on that?

Stupidity all around.

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curdog said:

“Increased the profile of the university” I guess is one way of putting it. Embarrassing the university is another (calling out the media, throwing the team under the bus when they lose, running off players). 4-8 last year and I predict the same this year.

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fcmchi said:

We NU fans had a taste of gambling changing outcomes in the ‘90’s. Dennis Lundy was caught up in that affair.

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NUCat320 said:

@AdamOnFirst , @Purple Pile Driver , were you avid gamblers prior to the launch of free, legal, online outlets?

I’ve had friends who regularly gambled through ‘their guy’ (I never investigated further), but it was mostly football Saturdays and Sundays, considered decisions, never spur of the moment. It was, say, part of the Friday afternoon routine. Weird, not my bag, but not particularly destructive or risky.


The primary problem with ‘the apps’ is that they’re so good at separating you from cash. Changing in-game odds, low-odd parlays, all built to make you feel good for making the bet, whether you win or not. So different from what it looked like ‘traditionally’.

I tend to come from the same place as @TheC*, where limitations on advertising, perhaps allowable bets per day, perhaps types of bets allowed on apps, would probably be good things.





*On most issues, I think I have a similar viewpoint to TheC, except that I don’t call for the OC, the DC, the Head Coach, the PA announcer, and the entire training and equipment management staff to be fired by the end of the first half. When the Cats are bad, it’s gallows humor for me only.

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Gatabowl said:

First it was he was a bad coach and Colorado wouldn’t do anything.

Now it’s he’s going to abandon them for a big job because another school thinks he’s a good coach.

Even if he does leave, he’s increased the profile of the university, increased the number of black applicants substantially, and begun to turn around arguably the worst P5 program. You can hate his personality but it’s been quite the journey.

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Gatabowl said:

First it was he was a bad coach and Colorado wouldn’t do anything.

Now it’s he’s going to abandon them for a big job because another school thinks he’s a good coach.

Even if he does leave, he’s increased the profile of the university, increased the number of black applicants substantially, and begun to turn around arguably the worst P5 program. You can hate his personality but it’s been quite the journey.

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peatymeanis said:

You think we're better than UCLA?

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NUCat320 said:

Based on the QB’s story, UNLV boosters aren’t living up to their end of things. So he’s quitting now, will preserve eligibility, and will go somewhere that will live up to its verbal agreement next year.

Hilarious in its inefficiency, its total upending of the concept of ‘college’, or ‘team’, and just glorious because it’s the result of the NCAA dragging its feet forever.

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hdhntr1 said:

Stop. Fitz did not lead to the transfer of top OL, or the transfer of Sullivan and Tyus. He was not the reason we lost the top half of a recruiting class and had others in another class decide at the last minute to go elsewhere. And like it or not, Jake is the reason we even had Lausch and Sullivan. (Gray is still an unknown) The blame is more Gragg and Schill and the way things were handled that left us in the situation we are in. It hurt the 23 class (guys deciding at last minute not to come) and absolutely destroyed the 24 class that ws shaping up to be Fitz's best (more than the top half went elsewhere and replaced with mostly 2 stars ). Portal exits (over entries) have killed our depth. Have to think that Fitz might have tried to adress RB room through portal as well and it was getting thin.

But you are likely talking mostly about QB and we did not get as much in the way of top QB targets as we would like but Jake did bring in a couple guys that he could work with in his system and he was bringing them along (Sullivan and Lausch)

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NUCat320 said:

Based on the QB’s story, UNLV boosters aren’t living up to their end of things. So he’s quitting now, will preserve eligibility, and will go somewhere that will live up to its verbal agreement next year.

Hilarious in its inefficiency, its total upending of the concept of ‘college’, or ‘team’, and just glorious because it’s the result of the NCAA dragging its feet forever.

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FeralFelidae said:

"“There’s no negotiating now. The portal’s over. All the negotiation’s history. Now we’re playing football."

The UNLV QB would seem to disagree.

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