Benson transferring? Whoa!
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No you don’t. Most recent revelation said it happened during his visit here. While Lathon is his own man, bad supervision and planning can take some credit too.
The lawsuit that was dropped at the federal level and re-filed at the state level, seemingly because he's looking for a jurisdiction that will give him the time of day?
https://dailynorthwestern.com/2018/...re-filed-against-northwestern-in-state-court/
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i don't think the dismissal of lathon was wrong. i think it was the timing of it. per news articles lathon visited in janurary. also per news articles lathon was dismissed the last week of may. there is no recruiting (incoming frosh or grad transfer at that point)
i don't think the dismissal of lathon was wrong. i think it was the timing of it. per news articles lathon visited in janurary. also per news articles lathon was dismissed the last week of may. there is no recruiting (incoming frosh or grad transfer at that point)
Your legal analysis is fresh and helpful. Suppose you routinely blow off state Courts, judgements and judges...
Ok, when did the event occur? May? January?
I have to believe there was some course of action between the incident and the dismissal. Not some knee jerk reaction.
You could be right about Lathon but we just don’t know. Could Collins have avoided the whole situation or cut the cord earlier? Not sure.
I am less inclined to give Collins the benefit of the doubt on Vassar. For the very reasons you mentioned and the fact that he wasn’t a very good player, Collins should had never recruited him. What I found most upsetting was the reported handling of the player after it was determined the player was not a fit. Colllins tried to make life difficult on the kid to force him to transfer rather than let him stay in school. That is unacceptable from my perspective. I don’t want student athletes to be treated that way at NU.
Although he has me on ignore, I would Super like this post if possible and give corbi a high five.
the papers saw he visited in january and dimissed at the end of may
from a math standpoint that seems like 4.5 months after the visit - so it took 4.5 months to make a decision - at which point recruiting is over
agree.
hypothetical though (seriously - no info on this - looking for perspective) say a kid decides to leave. tells his teammates and coaches he wants out. explores his options and realizes there are no options up to his standards. then he has decision remorse and wants to come back. do you take him back with open arms? are you excited for that player in your program in which you are trying to build a winning culture? if the player not deemed a fit - at that point what do you do?
I know. I didn’t mean to post that and didn’t finish my thought. My point was going to be players strongly disliked Carmody but he seemed to get more out of his players and we didn’t see the bizarre stuff we’re seeing now.
No. There is no supervison that would have stopped it. He made an awful choice.
Then the kid had too much freedom on the visit, or the visit wasn’t properly structured, or the kid shouldn’t have been recruited.
I had a few revenue sport based officials in H.S. including one to USC. I got laid more than a couple times and drank on most of them. And I have heard stories of more and better officials than mine. If Lathon got in trouble on a visit and no other existing athlete got in trouble then there was a problem.
I was always ‘in the company’ of a coach or athlete.
Nope, maybe not. Maybe keep him as a practice player. If he really develops, maybe play him. But I would not run him off. That entire episode is a black eye.
i think if there was something done at such a level to require dismissal it shouldn't have taken almost 5 months - should have been pretty obvious - right?
I don’t know and am choosing not to put money on it. You tell me. When did the event occur? There was one report that it happened on his visit.
And you would make him clean toilets. Hi Chris. Thanks for joining us. Nice user name.
His username (I believe) is a nod to a 2003 newspaper article in Charleston that published that gag name without realizing they’d been duped.
A reasonable question.
And let me clarify that I'm not trying to start Collins-Carmody comparison. Collins stands on his own at this point. I'm just shooting for a little consistency in our evaluation.
We'll ignore the KO recruits who transferred. It happens with every transition.
Soltau
Parker
Maley
In the gotcha discussion of 2019, people would add Brandon Lee to the list, but we know he doesn't count.
Mike Thompson
Cote
Gary Lee
Melchoir
Coble
Baran
Rowley
BTW, Soltau, Parker and Maley are three of the first seven Carmody recruits (VV, Davor, Hachad and Seacat) in two classes. Not a peep.
Don't you worry your little head aboit it Bob. You can be confident that we're thinking about your posts here the same way we always do...
One more addition ...
Let's get this a little more in the comparison of Collins first 11 recruits.
Six of the first 13 Carmody recruits left before completing their four years of eligibility. Of those six, you have a total of 10 years in the program - a grand total of eight years actually on the court.
But now we have huge hyperbolic questions about the direction with six guys who actually spent 16 years total in the program.
I'm not saying questions shouldn't asked at all. But I do disagree with the characterization of an exodus for three guys who have spent 11 seasons total in the program.
Let's get this a little more in the comparison of Collins first 11 recruits.
Six of the first 13 Carmody recruits left before completing their four years of eligibility. Of those six, you have a total of 10 years in the program - a grand total of eight years actually on the court.
But now we have huge hyperbolic questions about the direction with six guys who actually spent 16 years total in the program.
I'm not saying questions shouldn't asked at all. But I do disagree with the characterization of an exodus for three guys who have spent 11 seasons total in the program.
