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Collins to Villanova rumors

This is my instinct too, creating a distraction for the team during the tournament, but on the other hand the guys all know it's going on and everybody in every program knows that as soon as the season is over we all negotiate over who leaves, who stays, who might transfer, who will get what NIL bag, etc. The players are thinking the same thing and know it's going on, so it's not like it's not something everybody is thinking about anyway. At least now you acknowledge the reports and can tell your guys "yeah, we're all still figuring out next year still, let's all worry about that on Monday."
Or "let's worry about it in April after we win it all"
 
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Ok. What’s the alternative?
I think I'd just wait until the smoke clears.
Explain to the head coach that you will negotiate after that and how you will address any concerns.
If that requires a hard reset, at least you know what the rules are.
If Collins decides to leave right away then you know you made the right decision (because he was leaving no matter what).
 
Just a leverage ploy, then.
Great leverage for Collins because the AD wants to get his name in the paper.

Personally, I'm not a fan of longterm deals. Obviously there are hordes on this website who would make him the highest paid coach for eternity. I sense a big mistake coming.

Not really about Collins the individual, I just think it is damned near impossible for Northwestern to make an informed decision, with the landscape changing dramatically - and unpredictably. Committing to anything longterm in those circumstances is very risky.
Taking him out to 5 years is pretty reasonable but it likely needs a provision to get it back to 5 years after a successful (Dance?) season so that he can feel secure and not have to revisit this each time. If we had had that in place current contract he would currently been at 4 years and the need for redoing it would not be so immediate

Could take him out longer to 6 or 7 years but when it gets out that far it can get dicey
 
Ok. What’s the alternative?
You need the contract to run through the duration of the current recruiting class. So 4-5 years. It’s even more important for a school like NU where most will acknowledge the HC is the reason most choose the school. We ding have a history of success and players have to trust the head man. If things don’t work out and you pay a buy out, so be it. Just be careful it isn’t ridiculously cost prohibitive. We got very lucky there was a significant buy out on CCC’s last contact or dopey Gragg would have bounced him out. Buy outs aren’t always a bad thing.
 
I think I'd just wait until the smoke clears.
Explain to the head coach that you will negotiate after that and how you will address any concerns.
If that requires a hard reset, at least you know what the rules are.
If Collins decides to leave right away then you know you made the right decision (because he was leaving no matter what).
What smoke?
 
Just a leverage ploy, then.
Great leverage for Collins because the AD wants to get his name in the paper.

Personally, I'm not a fan of longterm deals. Obviously there are hordes on this website who would make him the highest paid coach for eternity. I sense a big mistake coming.

Not really about Collins the individual, I just think it is damned near impossible for Northwestern to make an informed decision, with the landscape changing dramatically - and unpredictably. Committing to anything longterm in those circumstances is very risky.
If you were Collins and putting yourself in the best position for yourself or your family, what would you do?
 
I think I'd just wait until the smoke clears.
Explain to the head coach that you will negotiate after that and how you will address any concerns.
If that requires a hard reset, at least you know what the rules are.
If Collins decides to leave right away then you know you made the right decision (because he was leaving no matter what).
Until the smoke clears? The portal is open now, man!

The best case scenario for an NU fan, an NU player with eligibility in demand, and Collins himself is to do what he did. Nail down some certainty for the program and get ready for next year.

If he fails to deliver in 3-4 years he can always be canned. Northwestern has a ton of resources to buy him out if needed.
 
You need the contract to run through the duration of the current recruiting class. So 4-5 years. It’s even more important for a school like NU where most will acknowledge the HC is the reason most choose the school. We ding have a history of success and players have to trust the head man. If things don’t work out and you pay a buy out, so be it. Just be careful it isn’t ridiculously cost prohibitive. We got very lucky there was a significant buy out on CCC’s last contact or dopey Gragg would have bounced him out. Buy outs aren’t always a bad thing.
You are living in the old days. This is the NILPortal Era. Players don’t need their coach to stay. THEY don’t need to stay. I will bet that in the quieter moments Collins sells recruits on how he got a guy into Duke almost as much as how he developed Martinelli to go from nowhere to conference leading scorer.
 
You are living in the old days. This is the NILPortal Era. Players don’t need their coach to stay. THEY don’t need to stay. I will bet that in the quieter moments Collins sells recruits on how he got a guy into Duke almost as much as how he developed Martinelli to go from nowhere to conference leading scorer.
Been blocked from posting on Other Sports Board about Wrestling. Hope this board does not go AWOL.
 
You are living in the old days. This is the NILPortal Era. Players don’t need their coach to stay. THEY don’t need to stay. I will bet that in the quieter moments Collins sells recruits on how he got a guy into Duke almost as much as how he developed Martinelli to go from nowhere to conference leading scorer.
Of course they don’t, but they aren’t going to a place like NU if they think their Coach will be gone as soon as he can. We aren’t UCLA, Duke, or UConn. The old days are the people that still think Players choose NU for the academics.
 
Guru has been just about the best source out there. He took some crap about being wrong on Barnhizer, but he was really just premature, and I can forgive him for not knowing that Barnhizer was a freak who would play on a broken foot for five games or whatever.

Just a leverage ploy, then.
Great leverage for Collins because the AD wants to get his name in the paper.

Personally, I'm not a fan of longterm deals. Obviously there are hordes on this website who would make him the highest paid coach for eternity. I sense a big mistake coming.

Not really about Collins the individual, I just think it is damned near impossible for Northwestern to make an informed decision, with the landscape changing dramatically - and unpredictably. Committing to anything longterm in those circumstances is very risky.
Huh? Anytime you can have the leverage to get your assistants more $, improve NIL, and work the admissions criteria, you absolutely do it.
 
Taking him out to 5 years is pretty reasonable but it likely needs a provision to get it back to 5 years after a successful (Dance?) season so that he can feel secure and not have to revisit this each time. If we had had that in place current contract he would currently been at 4 years and the need for redoing it would not be so immediate

Could take him out longer to 6 or 7 years but when it gets out that far it can get dicey
Push him out to 5 years remaining, giving him auto 1 year extensions with a raise for each year that he wins an NCAAT game (or makes the field - either one would be reasonable). Seems like a win for both sides
 
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Push him out to 5 years remaining, giving him auto 1 year extensions with a raise for each year that he wins an NCAAT game (or makes the field - either one would be reasonable). Seems like a win for both sides
I would say take it back to 5 years after any year he gets to the Dance
 
If you were Collins and putting yourself in the best position for yourself or your family, what would you do?
Just like the athletic Director has to do what is the best interest in Northwestern and not Collins. Therefore the trick to the negotiation is for each side to give up something to reach in middle point for an agreement can be done. It should not be that either side expects to get what is best for their particular interest.
 
Just like the athletic Director has to do what is the best interest in Northwestern and not Collins. Therefore the trick to the negotiation is for each side to give up something to reach in middle point for an agreement can be done. It should not be that either side expects to get what is best for their particular interest.
Except in this case, a bunch of their interests are aligned. AD also gets to use this negotiation as a leverage point as well to admin, boosters, etc.
 
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