Guess it really doesn't matter at this point, given what happened in the draft it was was evidently a shared opinion among those doing the selecting.
What was surprising though was how appreciative he was to get picked at all.
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Guess it really doesn't matter at this point, given what happened in the draft it was was evidently a shared opinion among those doing the selecting.
What was surprising though was how appreciative he was to get picked at all.
I'm not a big fan of Sander's style but I have to agree. His fall in the draft should be cautionary tale enough.
Couple observations:
I looked up his QBR and he was only 17th overall so by the basic statistics, not a top-rounder.
I think what he has chosen to show us of his personality, and the possibility of dad hanging around, made him a risky team leader.
It's easy to fall far fast at QB because only a few teams each year are looking for a potential new starter so each time those 2 or 3 pass on you, you're down another round.
I looked up his QBR and he was only 17th overall so by the basic statistics, not a top-rounder.
I think what he has chosen to show us of his personality, and the possibility of dad hanging around, made him a risky team leader.
It's easy to fall far fast at QB because only a few teams each year are looking for a potential new starter so each time those 2 or 3 pass on you, you're down another round.
The tweet had nothing to do with his son. It's from 2018 when Cleveland had the #1 pick. They had won one game over the past two years and four games over three years. They have more losses than any other team over the last two decades. So, frankly, maybe he was right.
The tweet you posted was from Deion, not Shedeur, so not only is it 7 years out of date, it's not even from the QB who was drafted by Cleveland this year, but by his father.
Fine, here is something from the past few weeks not a few years ago (I just posted that to show Leopards don't change their stripes)
"That assessment was true, but it was severely sugarcoated. Imagine Terrell Owens, his father, Chad Johnson, and Jim McMahon multiplied by ten thousand. This individual wore so much cologne to the interview assessment that the coach suggested they 'go for a walk' because he was concerned the individual might faint from the overpowering scent. He wore headphones around his neck with music playing throughout the entire interview and brought his entire entourage to the building.
In my 33 years in the NFL, I have never encountered a prima donna of this caliber.
When the coach asked where he envisioned himself in five years, his reply was, 'Mayor of the city, followed by a loud laugh and clapping.
His quarterback skills are mediocre at best; if he were playing in the SEC, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because he wouldn't have been a starter.
And let's say, hypothetically, someone does draft him, and they lose their first four or five games. Do you think an organization wants to hear him complain, with his father screaming racism or critiquing the coaching staff on ESPN about why his son is a subpar player? No team needs or wants that distraction. The few defensive players who saw him wanted us to draft him solely so they could knock him out in practice.
If anyone drafts him, my guess is it will be the Cowboys, with Jerry Jones doing a favor for Deion. You would think having a Hall of Fame father would lead to advice against acting like a jerk, but he's not a team player; he's a 'me' player. He's a young kid, and young kids make mistakes, but all this talk about 'God's plan' with the Sanders entourage-well, God's plan just humbled that young man and showed him his behavior stinks like the rest of us. My prediction is he'll be a backup and end up another Johnny Manziel. If there's one person to blame for this, it's his father, who still hasn't learned anything at 57 years old, walking into Jackson State, then Colorado, dancing around like MC Hammer, trying to put the spotlight on himself during pre-games and halftimes-he's a total jerk off."
"That assessment was true, but it was severely sugarcoated. Imagine Terrell Owens, his father, Chad Johnson, and Jim McMahon multiplied by ten thousand. This individual wore so much cologne to the interview assessment that the coach suggested they 'go for a walk' because he was concerned the individual might faint from the overpowering scent. He wore headphones around his neck with music playing throughout the entire interview and brought his entire entourage to the building.
In my 33 years in the NFL, I have never encountered a prima donna of this caliber.
When the coach asked where he envisioned himself in five years, his reply was, 'Mayor of the city, followed by a loud laugh and clapping.
His quarterback skills are mediocre at best; if he were playing in the SEC, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because he wouldn't have been a starter.
And let's say, hypothetically, someone does draft him, and they lose their first four or five games. Do you think an organization wants to hear him complain, with his father screaming racism or critiquing the coaching staff on ESPN about why his son is a subpar player? No team needs or wants that distraction. The few defensive players who saw him wanted us to draft him solely so they could knock him out in practice.
If anyone drafts him, my guess is it will be the Cowboys, with Jerry Jones doing a favor for Deion. You would think having a Hall of Fame father would lead to advice against acting like a jerk, but he's not a team player; he's a 'me' player. He's a young kid, and young kids make mistakes, but all this talk about 'God's plan' with the Sanders entourage-well, God's plan just humbled that young man and showed him his behavior stinks like the rest of us. My prediction is he'll be a backup and end up another Johnny Manziel. If there's one person to blame for this, it's his father, who still hasn't learned anything at 57 years old, walking into Jackson State, then Colorado, dancing around like MC Hammer, trying to put the spotlight on himself during pre-games and halftimes-he's a total jerk off."
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Having seen many leopards in the wild, I can assure you that they don't have stripes!
Well…massive entitlement cost him three to four rounds and a landing pad in Cleveland. I guess it all evens out. Hopefully this isn’t another Johnny Asshole (Manziel) situation and he has a decent career.
Is it possible he just isn’t that good?
Quinn Ewers was projected as a first round pick coming into the season. Went in 7th round and cost himself at least $4M by entering the draft.
Kids don’t always do the smart thing. Life’s lessons.
He probably isn’t. That coupled with massive entitlement and an overbearing dad spells “RED” for a lot of teams. But it hasn’t stopped a massive amount of people from claiming the NFL colluded against him unfairly for whatever reasons they have. Without those people, this isn’t even a story.
The last thing any team wants is a potential Kellen Winslow.
This quote that circulated social media was confirmed to be made up by a frequent fake news troll account.
Not that it isn't playing off the underlying truth. Hucksters like Steven A Smith who have tried to make this a ridiculous racial issue have tried to portray Shedeur like he is just "cocky and brash" and perhaps has an intense father. It's obviously far more than that. This is a quarterback who trashes his teammates and linemen in public on a daily basis. Who is a noted locker room cancer. Who is the very opposite of a trustworthy team leader. He's stated little interest in playing for many teams or in playing along in any situation that doesn't cater to his exact self-obsessed preferences.
On top of that, he isn't even "cocky and brash," or at least not in the way we mean when we talk about athletes. Going out onto midfield and giving a "suck it" gesture to the oposing sideline after you've dropped 50 on them is cocky and brash. Calling yourself the double greatest when you win fight after fight is cocky and brash. Shedeur just points to his expensive watch. What happens on the field doesn't matter, just that he's rich.
Doesn't sound like somebody you want to entrust your career as a coach and GM to by investing in to make a franchise quarterback unless their on-field play is undeniable.
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