How will B1G teams do in the tournament?
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Disagree. Coach K and Izzo are both class acts compared to most coaches. I wish we could hire one of that caliber - basically a Carmody who can recruit.
Not saying anything about their class or their caliber (I would give my left arm for NU to have a coach half as good at coaching/recruiting as those guys). I'm only talking about their faces.
Not sure why you want to punch their faces then.
Back on topic: Wisconsin is about to lose to Iowa State.
Pretty pathetic showing by the Big Ten. So we’ll get either one or two teams in the Sweet 16 again.
And we still couldn’t get close to a 10-10 record in this over-hyped conference.
Coach K is an ass who sold out his soul long ago. Thank God we're almost rid of him. As my bracket is busted I'm rooting for whomever plays his corrupt team.
How did he sell his soul? By accepting one-and-dones?
If so, then every fan on here sold their soul by praying we’d land PBJ for the past 4 years.
All analytics put Purdue and Iowa as top 16. Some also put IL. Wisconsin as a sweet sixteen team was a fabrication of rankings and B1G bias.
To hold serve the B1G would need to have 2-3 teams in the sweet 16. If Purdue gets in, it’s close. Not great, not terrible. 3.6 as they say in Chernobyl.
What baffles me is the 9 bids. Two years in a row. Especially when the Big12 was so clearly better.
Congrats on nailing one thing, the Big12 was the better league. Everything else you said was garbage.
I agree that the B1g 12 top to bottom was better than the B1G. But is comes down to the marginal teams, IU and RU versus Oklahoma (KSU and WVA were terrible). Pretty much a coin flip. OU might have had a better case than those two.
I hear you. To me OU and Texas A&M (SEC I know) were more deserving than getting 9 bids for the B1G. And I don’t even want to think or look up the Daytons, SMUs, Belmonts, who no one wants to schedule in the pre-season.
Well, the SEC is already out of the tourney altogether so there is that...Three very highly seeded teams didn't make it. League finished 2-4. NCAAs are a crapshoot. Wisconsin was missing Chuckie Hepburn with an injury and that was big in their loss.
Garbage, bull crap to you. I have read your pontifications too long . The only statistic that matters is winning. A B10 team has not won a national championship this century. Last Won it in 2000. Prior to that, it was 1989. So much for dominant league performance. It does not deserve the attention and acclaim. Talk to me when the B10 wins a national championship. Further, this failure casts doubt to any acclaim for the coaches. They recruit and develop the players with huge arenas, revenue and support, but when push comes to shove, they choke and suck. Howard, OSU coach, and Woodsen may change the success, and I hope Purdue wins it, but until then, the B10 and their coaches can only be considered mediocre.
There’s always the ignore button. But what you said about B1G coaches is still garbage.
I think that both of those conferences just aren’t good at basketball right now.
I’m watching an absolutely electric game between Arizona and TCU right now. It wouldn’t shock me if either of these teams won it all. I haven’t felt that way about any B1G or SEC teams I’ve watched this tournament.
...it wouldn't shock you if TCU won the whole thing? It would shock me, a lot more than it would if Purdue won it.
The NCAA selection committee has no idea what they are doing.
Armed with a bunch of meaningless stats to make it seem scientific.
Strength of schedule is garbage. Quad 1,2,3,4 are dumb.
They shafted the ACC this year, especially Wake Forest. What happens? ACC plays well.
Totally screwed the Pac 12 last year. What happens, Pac 12 dominates.
They'd be a lot better off, just taking the Top 5 teams from the Power 6 conferences and going from there.
Seed them relative to each other, based solely on their conference records
No conference should be allowed more than 50% of their teams into the tournament.
Whatever approach they used to justify 4 teams from the Mountain West is clearly awful.
Mountain West is inferior to both the American conference AND the Atlantic 10, which each got 2 teams.
Armed with a bunch of meaningless stats to make it seem scientific.
Strength of schedule is garbage. Quad 1,2,3,4 are dumb.
They shafted the ACC this year, especially Wake Forest. What happens? ACC plays well.
Totally screwed the Pac 12 last year. What happens, Pac 12 dominates.
They'd be a lot better off, just taking the Top 5 teams from the Power 6 conferences and going from there.
Seed them relative to each other, based solely on their conference records
No conference should be allowed more than 50% of their teams into the tournament.
Whatever approach they used to justify 4 teams from the Mountain West is clearly awful.
Mountain West is inferior to both the American conference AND the Atlantic 10, which each got 2 teams.
The NCAA Tournament, by virtue of being single-elimination and involving all the best teams in the country, is effectively random noise that tells you little to nothing about who the best team is, what the best conference is, etc. St. Peter's beat Kentucky and only Arkansas made it to the Sweet 16 from the SEC, sounds like the MAAC is as good or better than the SEC! No.
Thank you. Turn this into best of series and you’ll see who the best teams truly are.
You would, but the allure of the tourney is the upsets. To be the best you can’t stub your toe on an inferior opponent.
I'm not arguing they should do it. The one and done tourney is great and I love seeing the upsets. I'm just saying you can't make a bunch of claims about who is the best team or best conference doing it this way.
Ever finding a TRUE #1 will always be subjective...as others have said the TOurnament being a one in done is not a true measure. Means you won the tournament and played 8 of the 68 teams. Even the COnference tournaments are an anomoly,playing games 4 days straight. I think winning your regular season conference is a real prize.
How bout the top 8 conferences by ranking play a round robin........Aggghh no way to really do it...so just enjoy . The Dance is a lot of fun.....and the real trophy might be getting there....ya got to go outside and play with all the big kids.on the block.....
How bout the top 8 conferences by ranking play a round robin........Aggghh no way to really do it...so just enjoy . The Dance is a lot of fun.....and the real trophy might be getting there....ya got to go outside and play with all the big kids.on the block.....
Wisconsin would be in as well if they hadn't lost their point guard. Illinois is not very good.
I enjoyed the Miami fans chanting ‘A-C-C’ in the late moments against Auburn. (I assume it was a jab at SEC dorks.)
I really dislike the way mid-majors are clustered to minimize impact. San Francisco and Murray State — both top 25 NET teams — got matched with each other (and ousted by the criminally underrated </s> MAAC).
The B1G truly does lack in athleticism, probably always. You see that with your eyes, or on NBA rosters (though we’ll have a B1G flavor for the lottery this year).
That said, Jaden Ivey was a killer down the stretch yesterday, and maybe has a look (and also a favorable schedule).
I really dislike the way mid-majors are clustered to minimize impact. San Francisco and Murray State — both top 25 NET teams — got matched with each other (and ousted by the criminally underrated </s> MAAC).
The B1G truly does lack in athleticism, probably always. You see that with your eyes, or on NBA rosters (though we’ll have a B1G flavor for the lottery this year).
That said, Jaden Ivey was a killer down the stretch yesterday, and maybe has a look (and also a favorable schedule).
Basically every B1G team with a pulse makes the tournament. Therefore, for Michigan, the "rest of the regular season" suspension was nothing more than a bunch of exhibition games. He hit a guy, which would have led to most of us getting arrested. It was at his workplace, which would have led to every single one of us getting fired and possibly sued. And yet - Howard still walks the Earth, and his team may have been improved by actual good coaching in his absence.
That’s right. The glory of this tournament is that it’s not trying to foolishly find ‘the true national champion’. Instead, it rolls out the ball and says ‘let’s see what happens’. Littles versus bigs is the joy, but, geez, just about every game yesterday was entertaining, even without much ‘little guy’ flair.
It’s the only sporting event (this weekend especially) incapable of disappointing.
Except for the crass commercialism and the racist undertones and the farce of ‘student athletes’ and Coach K’s punchable face and the income disparity between players and coaches and the annual search for TruTV, it’s the perfect sporting event.
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I did not pay as much attention as I normally would throughout the weekend as I was sick. Saturday was rough. Sunday, not so much. But thought the same thing. As I did last year.
Arizona, Houston, Duke, even Tennessee... Purdue is the only team that matches them in athleticism. With IL coming close.
Teams built for March are usually teams where the defense travels. And athleticism helps defense, more than offense.
IL would not have won one single game were it not for their athleticism gap against Chattanooga . WI, same against Colgate, AK same against Vermont.
Was any game in the first two rounds decided by a made basket as time expired?
(aka shot at the buzzer - buzzer-beater)
I can't recall one.
(aka shot at the buzzer - buzzer-beater)
I can't recall one.
this phrase is like the sweetest poetry I've ever read. A few loudmouths got everyone jacked up about the "true national champion" and it has ruined football (replays, contrived overtimes, possibility of teams like Bama and GA playing THREE times, and only the last game really counting). Basketball is barely better, because teams get chance after chance to beat a team - regular season 2x, then conf tourney. Some team can slither in with a crap record, win a couple in the NCAA, and people throw roses at their feet. Dumb. If the regular season is meaningless, don't play it. Also, stay off my lawn.
I dunno about buzzer beaters, but Illinois won by one point.
Miami won by two points.
I didn't see either of those games, but the score suggests a fight to the end.
Tenn-Chatt missed two shots in the final seconds against Illini. Could have been a buzzer beater, but was not.
Illinois problem was Frazier was tighter than the skin on a grape in both games and did next to nothing. Carbelo was Chase on steroids. Good defender but completely wild on offense. He was so bad, Undie couldn’t play him in the second half against Houston. Have to have guard play in the tourney.
From what I watched I would add, against Houston, Plummer also completely vanished.
I am wondering where the idea that Curbelo is good at basketball came from.
Undie should hire 1 to 10 sports psychologists for every tournament. That team was not mentally ready for the pressure. Even when they were supposed to be the aggressors.
The Arizona one was soooo close last night at the end of regulation (a DUNK buzzer beater that was called off for being late). Believe me, even without a buzzer beater it was one of the best NCAA games I've seen in years.
That one was good, but the Murray St - San Fransisco game was better. That game was ****ing LIT. The late night game on Thursday night, I'd guess most missed it.
I actually agree with this. I always cheer against Coach K (unless he's coaching the national team), but it's nothing personal, just jealousy.
