It’s not negative, it’s reality. His question mark at Brownsburg was his wliinihgness to compete. That was on full display at Clemson. Fitz needs to make him compete. And Northwestern is not Clemson, Bama, OSU, UGA, etc... That’s what I meant by major programs. Shea Patterson was a 5 Star & #1 QB in his class. He has stunk against the good defenses he played. It’s not a popular opinion on here because people see Hunter as a savior just as Michigan fans saw Shea as a savior, but I think Hunter is not what people think, just like Shea isn’t.
Johnson winning QB job isn't a foregone conclusion, says Fitz
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It’s not negative, it’s reality. His question mark at Brownsburg was his wliinihgness to compete. That was on full display at Clemson. Fitz needs to make him compete. And Northwestern is not Clemson, Bama, OSU, UGA, etc... That’s what I meant by major programs. Shea Patterson was a 5 Star & #1 QB in his class. He has stunk against the good defenses he played. It’s not a popular opinion on here because people see Hunter as a savior just as Michigan fans saw Shea as a savior, but I think Hunter is not what people think, just like Shea isn’t.
Nothing you are saying is consistent with what we have heard about Hunter since he stepped on campus. Thanks for stopping by. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
Cool. So his 4 year HS career was wrong & his time at Clemson was wrong? LOL
So your people are telling you feel good stories? Cool.
Impressive season.
Beat 6-7 Purdue by 4.
Blown out at home by Duke.
Beat by Akron at home.
Beat 5 win Nebraska in OT.
Beat worse P5 program Rutgers by 3.
Beat horrible Illinois by one score.
Lose to the only 3 good teams played (two at home & one at neutral site) by an average of two TDS.
Yeah, major program...fool’s gold.
Hunter will crack. He always has unfortunately.
Obviously this isn't a popular opinion on this board during the off season when everyone is in first place and feels good about their team. You may know something about HJ's high School career but I find it hard to believe that all the coaches and scouts at schools like Clemson and all the rating services who rated him a 5 star were that far off. On top of that he wasn't the only highly regarded QB to leave Clemson due to the arrival of a guy who appears to be a once n a generation QB prodigy.
He competed at Clemson as a true freshman and got beat out by an older QB who led his team to the playoff. Then he got passed by maybe the best QB prospect in the history of CFB, who led maybe the best team of all time to an undefeated national championship. He would have been foolish to stay at Clemson. He chose a great program where he can play up to three years, a program where he had personal familiarity. That’s all we know. Everything else is uninformed speculation. We’ll know soon enough whether Internet tough guys are right that he cracks. I don’t think NU fans should expect him to be a savior, but if he can’t beat out TJ Green, well, we have problems.
Wtf is wrong with you? It doesn’t really matter if you are right or wrong, you don’t go on opposition boards to blast ( and that is what is was) a guy that the program is excited about. Doesn’t your Catholic upbringing tell you if you got nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all? Jumping in unprovoked is unnecessary.
Then like a true tool, you jump in are rip the entire team because your feelings got hurt. Nice. Go back to blue and gold or whatever it is called.
What do you get when you cross a pig with a Notre Dame graduate?
Nothing...there’s just some things a pig won’t do.
Nothing...there’s just some things a pig won’t do.
Sorry, too many thoughts at once for you.
And it took a poor run fit by an inexpericed corner playing the back side of a read option for you to beat such a “shitty” team.
Pretty high horse there for a guy whose team was 4-8 only a couple years ago and pretty clearly didn’t even belong on the same field as Clemson. I don’t recall you guys exactly kicking the snot out of a 4-8 Ball State team or a 6-7 Vanderbilt team or 7-7 Pitt team or a 5-7 USC team either.
Ah. I had forgotten that you’re clearly the smartest guy in every room. How could I forget?
Okay, you’re a troll. Makes sense now.
Not sure which is worse on this thread - GCG and IGNORE having one of those "I hit you last" contests on the drive to the Grand Canyon, or some poorly disguised ND troll that still thinks they are relevant in the national picture despite continual evidence to the contrary. At least Michigan fans have the sense to see that their emperor has no clothes
TL;DR Northwestern won the Big Ten West.
Watch Hunter in the Elite 11 competition. The guy is a baller. Oh, and by the way, all those other elite QBs said they’d take Hunter if they were starting a franchise.
Guys like you make me ashamed that I cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame.
Ok so I know the ND fan is trolling, but I do think some of what he’s saying is factual even if he’s extrapolating a lot to get to his conclusion. I live in Brownsburg, and have seen Hunter play a ton. He was a stud on the HS field, albeit against mediocre talent. That said, the local hype around him was always odd. For a premier national prospect at such a small town, I was always shocked by the low enthusiasm of local fans. There was a lot of concern when he headed for Clemson that he was out over his skis, and his talent didn’t match his profile.
Take that with a grain of salt. I am not a good evaluator of football talent, and I’m not suggesting that anyone else who stated that opinion is, either. And it doesn’t mean that he won’t be a great success at NU, either. But what the ND troll is saying is actually true, at least with respect to his reputation and the sentiment of those fans who cheered for him here where he grew up.
None of this matters anyway. You’ll know what you have this fall, and I’d rather have Hunter on my sideline than not.
Take that with a grain of salt. I am not a good evaluator of football talent, and I’m not suggesting that anyone else who stated that opinion is, either. And it doesn’t mean that he won’t be a great success at NU, either. But what the ND troll is saying is actually true, at least with respect to his reputation and the sentiment of those fans who cheered for him here where he grew up.
None of this matters anyway. You’ll know what you have this fall, and I’d rather have Hunter on my sideline than not.
It makes no sense. Kid goes to Clemson to compete with the best. He loses the competition to the best true freshman college QB in the country, perhaps one of the best ever, and transfers to another school...so that he can take part in competition in football games.
By the logic posited in this thread, Kelly Bryant is competition-shy. Jalen Hurts. Tate Martell. Baker Mayfield. Malik Zaire. Everett Golson. Dayne Crist.
Or these guys realized that only one QB is gonna play, and the time to take advantage of being able to play is short, so they put themselves in situations where they could go play. Wanting to compete rather than sit on the sideline somehow equals fear of competition.
As the quoted poster says, we'll learn more this fall. But there are about 110 FBS programs around the country that would prefer to have our QB situation as it stands today over the one they currently have.
Compared to other national prospects, Hunter and his family are way more humble and low-key than the rest. Just the way they are; the way he was raised. I’ll take skill and success over hype anyday.
Man, talk about raining on a parade. I would really love to hear something from one of the straight shooters, like GoUNU. So many hopes pinned to this kids jersey...
It does remind me of the kid down the street that I used to get in arguments when I was 5 years old. "NO, You're the poopy, doopy, poopyhead. and a double poopyhead.....!" Just kept going round and round like that. Who wouldda thought I'd get into NU?
This. It is not like CT or TS were hat dancing attention seekers but I think we are all pretty fond of them now that all is said and done.
GoUNU already expressed his opinion on the Rock.
We would have been ranked higher if we would have beaten Akron and Duke
All that doesn’t matter, the fact is Johnson is his here. He has talent. I am more concerned if the OC can tailor offensive schemes to fit the talent we have and exploit our opponents defense.
At this point it doesn’t matter how anyone view Johnson in the past. He is at NU and is family. The young man has talent. Honestly we need to pay close attention to the OC and how he is going to get the best use of the talent we have in house and what’s coming this summer. Offensive schemes and exploiting opponents defense is the key.
Ex: I watched the Rutgers game, their defense knew what we were doing, we were predictable, that is not a knock on our players, I would put that more on our coaches.
Well, yes, I agree. It's pretty obvious that his profile to-date (very successful in HS, goes to Clemson, transfers, comes to NU) does not obviously suggest that he lacks a competitive edge. However, at the same time it doesn't guarantee that he has a strong competitive edge. We'll find out on the football field soon enough what we have. We can note this troll's comment and file it away, likely never to be revisited, but hey maybe there's an outside chance there is truth to it. Like you, I'm very happy with our current QB situation.
Pretty uninspiring movie that ends with a Holiday Bowl championship, but I see where you’re going.
You can fix that StreamCat. No need to experience the shame. I love ND the school. But the football team? Two entirely different things with a connection in name only.
GOUNUII
Here's what I can tell you for sure. NDAFArly is an internet nut job spewing his make-it-up as he goes poison. He knows some things. About a 3rd of what he thinks. But when Rivals gave him some sort of job over at the Notre Dame site promoting their premium board, an already insane person just got worse. Not long ago I was on that board discussing Pyne's official visit to NU and my crystal ball for him to BC. NDAFArly made it ugly ... claiming I knew nothing ... and that he and his people had Pyne's detailed football itinerary. Which for sure involved nothing NU related. You know the type. None of it was true. It wasn't a fair fight. I kicked his ass with the facts.
I am not at all concerned about HJ's HS career. Or his choice of Clemson followed by NU. He's a great kid. He has boatloads of QB ability. Dabo loves him. Fitz loves him. He's ours and we love him. And he's in Evanston because he wants to compete on the field. Where it counts.
GOUNUII
I really got the feeling that the Clemson coaches told him something like you're too good to ride bench your whole career. Let us help you move along. It would have been a tough conversation but I feel like it was one of integrity. They have no guarantee that their guy will not get injured.
