The ACC gave Notre Dame and Clemson the week off before their championship gameNU should refuse to play because they have COVID-19 concerns or are worried that Illinois does. Pick one!
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The ACC gave Notre Dame and Clemson the week off before their championship gameNU should refuse to play because they have COVID-19 concerns or are worried that Illinois does. Pick one!
Alvarez does not have the authority to change stuff on his own. It has to be done by the whole B1G. And one of the things that was brought up is 2 of the 3 games OSU had canceled were by their opponents. The other BiG teams with not enough games to qualify at least canceled two of their games on their own.Caller's to various Sports Radio Shows are blasting the B1G Leadership and Alvarez.
Illinois is to NU as Michigan is to OSU.
Alvarez does not have the authority to change stuff on his own. It has to be done by the whole B1G. And one of the things that was brought up is 2 of the 3 games OSU had canceled were by their opponents. The other BiG teams with not enough games to qualify at least canceled two of their games on their own.
It was also brought up that Indiana might not (very likely) be able to play next week and they did lose to OSU head to head. Also, when they established the 5 game rule, they didn't envision it being this bad.
Bottom line: everybody wants a way around OSU and would love to see someone else hoist the championship trophy. You know how to really solve that ? Start beating them on the field which not too many teams in this conference has figured out yet
They're pissed he would even suggested the move. Also did I say he approved it despite him being Chair?...NO
Actually the opponents didn't cancel on their own, those two games were canceled per B1G Requirement per the Conference's Safety Protocols. Better go back and fact-check!
Dude Rules are Rules.........let's move the goal posts during season too. LMFAO
B1G Covid-Procedures From the Horses Mouth
FROM B1G
They're pissed he would even suggested the move. Also did I say he approved it despite him being Chair?...NO
Actually the opponents didn't cancel on their own, those two games were canceled per B1G Requirement per the Conference's Safety Protocols. Better go back and fact-check!
Dude Rules are Rules.........let's move the goal posts during season too. LMFAO
B1G Covid-Procedures From the Horses Mouth
FROM B1G
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The Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors (COP/C) adopted significant medical protocols including daily antigen testing, enhanced cardiac screening and an enhanced data-driven approach when making decisions about practice/competition. The COP/C voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of October 23-24, 2020. The decision was based on information presented by the Big Ten Return to Competition Task Force, a working group that was established by the COP/C and Commissioner Kevin Warren to ensure a collaborative and transparent process.
The Big Ten will require student-athletes, coaches, trainers and other individuals that are on the field for all practices and games to undergo daily antigen testing. Test results must be completed and recorded prior to each practice or game. Student-athletes who test positive for the coronavirus through point of contact (POC) daily testing would require a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test to confirm the result of the POC test.
“Everyone associated with the Big Ten should be very proud of the groundbreaking steps that are now being taken to better protect the health and safety of the student-athletes and surrounding communities,” said Dr. Jim Borchers, Head Team Physician, The Ohio State University and co-chair of the Return to Competition Task Force medical subcommittee.
“The data we are going to collect from testing and the cardiac registry will provide major contributions for all 14 Big Ten institutions as they study COVID-19 and attempt to mitigate the spread of the disease among wider communities.”
Each institution will designate a Chief Infection Officer (CInO) who will oversee the collection and reporting of data for the Big Ten Conference. Test positivity rate and population positivity rate thresholds will be used to determine recommendations for continuing practice and competition.
All COVID-19 positive student-athletes will have to undergo comprehensive cardiac testing to include labs and biomarkers, ECG, Echocardiogram and a Cardiac MRI. Following cardiac evaluation, student-athletes must receive clearance from a cardiologist designated by the university for the primary purpose of cardiac clearance for COVID-19 positive student-athletes. The earliest a student-athlete can return to game competition is 21 days following a COVID-19 positive diagnosis.
In addition to the medical protocols approved, the 14 Big Ten institutions will establish a cardiac registry in an effort to examine the effects on COVID-19 positive student-athletes. The registry and associated data will attempt to answer many of the unknowns regarding the cardiac manifestations in COVID-19 positive elite athletes.
“From the onset of the pandemic, our highest priority has been the health and the safety of our students. The new medical protocols and standards put into place by the Big Ten Return To Competition Task Force were pivotal in the decision to move forward with sports in the conference,” said Morton Schapiro, Chair of the Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors and Northwestern University President, and Chair of the Return to Competition Task Force Steering Committee. “We appreciate the conference’s dedication to developing the necessary safety procedures for our students and the communities that embrace them.”
“Our focus with the Task Force over the last six weeks was to ensure the health and safety of our student-athletes. Our goal has always been to return to competition so all student-athletes can realize their dream of competing in the sports they love,” said Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren. “We are incredibly grateful for the collaborative work that our Return to Competition Task Force have accomplished to ensure the health, safety and wellness of student-athletes, coaches and administrators.”
The Big Ten Conference will use data provided by each Chief Infection Officer (CInO) to make decisions about the continuation of practice and competition, as determined by Test Positivity Rate and Population Positivity Rate, based on a seven-day rolling average:
Decisions to alter or halt practice and competition will be based on the following scenarios:
- Test positivity rate (number of positive tests divided by total number of tests administered):
- Green 0-2%
- Orange 2-5%
- Red >5%
- Population positivity rate (number of positive individuals divided by total population at risk):
- Green 0-3.5%
- Orange 3.5-7.5%
- Red >7.5%
The daily testing will begin by September 30, 2020.
- Green/Green and Green/Orange: Team continues with normal practice and competition.
- Orange/Orange and Orange/Red: Team must proceed with caution and enhance COVID-19 prevention (alter practice and meeting schedule, consider viability of continuing with scheduled competition).
- Red/Red: Team must stop regular practice and competition for a minimum of seven days and reassess metrics until improved.
Eventually all Big Ten sports will require testing protocols before they can resume competition. Updates regarding fall sports other than football, as well as winter sports that begin in the fall including men’s and women’s basketball, men’s ice hockey, men’s and women’s swimming and diving, and wrestling, will be announced shortly.
The Big Ten Conference is an association of world-class universities whose member institutions share a common mission of research, graduate, professional and undergraduate teaching and public service. Founded in 1896, the Big Ten has sustained a comprehensive set of shared practices and policies that enforce the priority of academics in the lives of students competing in intercollegiate athletics and emphasize the values of integrity, fairness and competitiveness. The broad-based programs of the 14 Big Ten institutions will provide over $200 million in direct financial support to more than 9,800 students for more than 11,000 participation opportunities on 350 teams in 42 different sports. The Big Ten sponsors 28 official conference sports, 14 for men and 14 for women, including the addition of men’s ice hockey and men’s and women’s lacrosse since 2013. For more information, visit www.bigten.org.
Not true. The so called 6-game rule anticipated the possibility that the average number of games played would drop to 7 or less and then the minimum number of games would be 2 less than the average.Also, when they established the 5 game rule, they didn't envision it being this bad.
All the canceled games were by the schools not the conference.
OK Whatever. Jesus H Christ. Michigan AD - Warde Manual - called OSU and cancelled the game. But whatever you want to fly with.........No they were by the conference's direction per the B1G Covid Protocol. Better Fact Check again
You can spin this any way you like but OSU would have played their games against Maryland and Michigan if it wasn't for the Covid outbreak at those schools which OSU had no control over. The bottom line is that the people bitching on this site about having to play OSU now just want the perceived easier way out (Indiana). If you're going to claim to be the best, beat the best
OK Whatever. Jesus H Christ. Michigan AD - Warde Manual - called OSU and cancelled the game. But whatever you want to fly with.........
Boy, you really don’t understand why we are mad. This has nothing to do with us not wanting to play Ohio State.You can spin this any way you like but OSU would have played their games against Maryland and Michigan if it wasn't for the Covid outbreak at those schools which OSU had no control over. The bottom line is that the people bitching on this site about having to play OSU now just want the perceived easier way out (Indiana). If you're going to claim to be the best, beat the best
The bottom line is that the people bitching on this site about having to play OSU now just want the perceived easier way out (Indiana). If you're going to claim to be the best, beat the best
Alvarez does not have the authority to change stuff on his own. It has to be done by the whole B1G. And one of the things that was brought up is 2 of the 3 games OSU had canceled were by their opponents. The other BiG teams with not enough games to qualify at least canceled two of their games on their own.
It was also brought up that Indiana might not (very likely) be able to play next week and they did lose to OSU head to head. Also, when they established the 5 game rule, they didn't envision it being this bad.
Bottom line: everybody wants a way around OSU and would love to see someone else hoist the championship trophy. You know how to really solve that ? Start beating them on the field which not too many teams in this conference has figured out yet
Not difficult. Follow the money. FOX/Big Ten schools depleted coffers.
Wonder if anyone asked the players what they want. Not.
I don't think you understand our objection. It isn't that we object to playing OSU. If NU were 5-0 and Wisconsin were 6-1 -- a situation which could easily have arisen this year -- do you think for even an instant that the B1G would change the rules to let NU go to the championship over Wisconsin? I don't.
I think most people on this site wanted to play Ohio State. So, don't cast a wide net there.You can spin this any way you like but OSU would have played their games against Maryland and Michigan if it wasn't for the Covid outbreak at those schools which OSU had no control over. The bottom line is that the people bitching on this site about having to play OSU now just want the perceived easier way out (Indiana). If you're going to claim to be the best, beat the best
I think most people on this site wanted to play Ohio State. So, don't cast a wide net there.
My gripe is that I agree with the folks that say the league should cancel our game this weekend. If you want a fair championship game, then make it fair.
I know it's a tall order, but I want to see us kick OSU's smug ass, and I want Fitz to have every fair opportunity to prepare and minimize pre-championship injuries.
While the fans are crying foul, that does not mean the NU coaches and players don't want to play Illannoys.Ohio St would be thrilled if you canceled your game vs Illinois and let us demolish them for the turtle.
While the fans are crying foul, that does not mean the NU coaches and players don't want to play Illannoys.
Where is all this money coming from? NO fans in the stands. OK there is TV money but doubt that changes because of a contract signed months ago.Not difficult. Follow the money. FOX/Big Ten schools depleted coffers.
Wonder if anyone asked the players what they want. Not.
Let's make this simple so you can understand. Participating in the Conference Championship Game and the result have NOTHING to do with participation n the playoffs!I've followed this for a good part of the day and it sounded like OSU needed a conference championship to get into the playoffs - and they (obviously) are the only B1G team with a shot at the playoffs.
It was noted by the B1G administrators that OSU was the only B1G team - lacking enough games (six) to qualify - that had 2 games canceled by their opponent (Maryland and Michigan) and the B1G admitted that this scenario wasn't taken into account initially. If OSU would have played just one of those games - and even lost - they still would be division champs.
It was also noted they beat Indiana in their head to head matchup and are undefeated
And speaking of Indiana, who knows if they'll be able to play in the CCG - they are knee deep in their own Covid problems and had to cancel the game (mutual agreement) with Purdue this week.
And don't hold me to this, but if I understood the situation correctly, it was an unanimous vote by the BiG - including Northweatern and Indiana administrators (14-0) - to send OSU to the CCG.
Basically, it comes down to money and the playoffs since OSU is the only BiG team with a chance to get in. The conference share this money evenly. Wouldn't it be hilarious though, if Northwestern beat them
what if IU HAD beaten them, was the 5-0 team and OSU was the 6-1 team?"
Seems that the Big Ten Championship Game has nothing to do with the playoffs.if IU was on the cusp of the college football playoff, this would have happened for IU. That’s what this is about. The whole season was played for (first) TV money and the expectation that OSU was loaded for a championship run. Offensively, Ohio State has not disappointed.
OSU’s vulnerability is a close Clemson win over Notre Dame and a close Florida win over Alabama. You will have 4 1 loss teams with better resumes than an undefeated OSU.
Ohio St would be thrilled if you canceled your game vs Illinois and let us demolish them for the turtle.
OSU’s vulnerability is a close Clemson win over Notre Dame and a close Florida win over Alabama. You will have 4 1 loss teams with better resumes than an undefeated OSU.
My two cents....I generally don’t agree with rule changes in mid-game or mid-season, but this isn’t a generally normal season. After all, we are currently on the 3rd permutation of the 2020 conference football schedule. Unexpected unprecedented changes have been the normal for all of us since March.
This is a money decision. Not just trying to make the Conf. Championship game more lucrative, but for the Fox Sports contract. The biggest rating game for the Conference was taken away, the Conference wants to make sure the game in Indy attracts both Conference fans and out of Conference fans. Not just for the purposes of this year, but for negotiations with the contract renewal.
Is it fair that OSU gets consideration that a NU, IU, Illinois, or Rutgers wouldn’t? An argument could be made for- no. Is it fair that NU, IU, Illinois, or Rutgers, gets an equal share of TV, Bowl, or Playoff revenue as OSU? An argument could be made for-no.
I don't know the conference vote, but Indiana seems to be classy about it. Indiana Head Coach Tom Allen states they are very disappointed but that they had there chance when they played Ohio State earlier in the season.I hope they reached this decision by a supermajority vote.
Well you have to beat up on somebody to make the revenue. Competitive games are good for the conference. Having 1 powerhouse and 13 also rans is not good for the revenue business in the long run.My two cents....I generally don’t agree with rule changes in mid-game or mid-season, but this isn’t a generally normal season. After all, we are currently on the 3rd permutation of the 2020 conference football schedule. Unexpected unprecedented changes have been the normal for all of us since March.
This is a money decision. Not just trying to make the Conf. Championship game more lucrative, but for the Fox Sports contract. The biggest rating game for the Conference was taken away, the Conference wants to make sure the game in Indy attracts both Conference fans and out of Conference fans. Not just for the purposes of this year, but for negotiations with the contract renewal.
Is it fair that OSU gets consideration that a NU, IU, Illinois, or Rutgers wouldn’t? An argument could be made for- no. Is it fair that NU, IU, Illinois, or Rutgers, gets an equal share of TV, Bowl, or Playoff revenue as OSU? An argument could be made for-no.