Why do you insult know nothing stupidity like that?
What is happening now is just a prelude to what will transpire. I believe eventually the top 20-30 teams will form a new super conference outside the purview of the NCAA. It will essentially be a professional minor league football conference managed by a couple of dozen universities who no longer are interested in pretending these players are student athletes.
I thought ND was not actually in ACC but still mostly an independent. I think that with regard to FB they still have a deal with one of the networks so that whatever rights ACC might have would be far less for them. And all things are negotiable so they might have rights but likely the separation would not be as expensive as you suggest.
The issue is that those power schools have to have someone to beat up on or they do not have the records to be power programs, Going to the super conference will likely destroy them as well
The current conference will cease to exist at some point and we will be left behind (along with some other schools) to form or join something else.
And .football finds all other sports. So taking a massive pay it from football hurts the whole athletic department.
With them constantly raising tuition and bringing in kids with less and less affinity to sports and without the conference revenues, hard to imagine what that would be that includes NU
I said it and have to own it.
There is more to the story. The Big East had several different groups fighting for control of the conference. There was the basketball-only side (Catholics), the all-sports side, and the lone football side (Temple). When Miami, Boston College, and Va. Tech left for the ACC, it created a power struggle. The basketball-only school saw the all-sports weak because they didn't have enough votes to stop any decision made by the basketball-only schools. Hence, Temple became the first casualty. Eight years later, the basketball-only side forced a split from the all-sports side. The basketball-only took the Big East name and caused the all-sports to create their league, the American Athletic Conference (AAC). This was a unique situation that college sports had never experienced before and likely not see again.
If the big dogs decide to leave and create this threat to the NFL, the NFL will treat it as a threat and crush it. Colleges and Universities are run by academic people who rely on network people to advise them. The NFL will force the networks to choose. Remember, the NFL is one voice while college has 1000s of people competing to be heard at the head table.
What is happening now is just a prelude to what will transpire. I believe eventually the top 20-30 teams will form a new super conference outside the purview of the NCAA. It will essentially be a professional minor league football conference managed by a couple of dozen universities who no longer are interested in pretending these players are student athletes.
the mega conference would not be a threat to the NFL, it would be an even better version of the FREE minor league player development/feeder system that college football gives them now. All the benefits of a minor league player development system like what MLB baseball teams have, without any of the expenses to run it. A mega conference of like minded, football crazed schools outside of the purview of the NCAA would be even better for the NFL than the college football system that is in place now. Presumably the football players at these mega conference schools would have to dedicate even less time at “playing school” and have more time to focus on football development. In addition, with the mega schools only playing each other, the top NFL prospects would be even more concentrated and easier to scout because they’d all be playing against each other and making each other better.
Is that enough schools though at the highest level to support this whole thing as a minor league system?
Not enough teams willing to be the bottom b*tch in a super conference. Do you think Penn State will accept losing seasons more often than winning? No, and neither will Florida State or Wisconsin. The point is these teams love having balance in their conference, so their ego isn't bruised. They want teams they are likely to beat often in their conference. But here's the real problem. Forget about the NCAA being the governing body to control this new league. It's the federal government that they should worry about. There is growing concern from Congress that college sports are getting out of hand and needs checks and balance. A breakaway group risks losing its protected status as universities.
You could be right but we’ll see. If the super conference materializes, that’s where the vast majority of the TV money will go to. The allure of the money will outweigh the fear of being the doormat.
The agreement is for ND to have all their sports in the ACC except football and hockey, they MUST play 5 to 6 ACC Football Games per season. If they join a conference, they must join the ACC. They also have full voting power as evidenced by attempting to get Stanford admitted. They are still hog-tied by the GoR and the $120M exit fee per reports
Incorrect..................FSU would still be required to pay the $120M Exit Fee and all Home TV Review would go straight to the ACC or games blacked out. This is why FSU hired JP Morgan to look into financing the exit fee and TV Revenue.
If the goal was to prevent the conference from being PAC-12ed, it would seem to be working. How does that make them idiots?
Well, FSU's Crybaby Ass President throwing a temper tantrum regarding a document(s) he signed makes him One Dumb F****** Idiot and add the other 6 Presidents which are bitching regarding a document(s) they signed too
It might end up with NU just doing what U of Chicago did in the mid 50's and just say screw it and leave or just reconstitute the old Western Conference minus Michigan. Seriously, people in here always have been complaining about poor attendance by the students since I joined the forum, with most folks in the stands being old fart alums(Gen X or older). Being an elite private university hurts the cause with a small enrollment and a more cosmopolitan makeup. What percentage of the undergrad student body is from Illinois?
My guess 10% for undergrad. Grad school is probably higher as for many programs they might decide to go to NU because they already live here
That isn't good. I went to the University of Dayton for grad school. Probably two thirds of the undergrads were from Ohio, maybe more. A lot of New Yorkers though. Football games were fairly attended, but still not close to capacity. Not sure what to think/say once this mega conference garbage becomes reality. I used to love CFB, but it is slowly killing the traditions and the overall freshness of the game in the quest for sharing in billions.
Why are you surprised? And isn't Dayton a state school? Lower in state tuition has a big part in the student body makeup Like going to NIU, most of the student body is from in state, NU is private and gets people from all over the world. Highly selective undergrad and try to have a diverse student body,
Dayton is a Private school. There are no tuition breaks for Ohio students unless it is a designated scholarship.
I don't think it has to go to that.
Yep, the patsies are what make the blue bloods, blue bloods. Ask Nebraska.
Nebraska is by far the best example. Their fanbase sticking with that program is incredible given the losing there.
Thanks for the correction. I had thought it was public. So maybe it is more like a Loyola. Don't the private catholic schools tend to be more local/regional and tend to draw more from the immediate area?
My guess is that they would do it with the NFL's blessing. With college on different days, hard to say that they would really be in any direct competition, Now if they tried to play on Sundays, Mondays then NFL might consider them a threat but otherwise...
Thanks. Higher than I would have expected. But also interesting that numbers for IL and Midwest have dropped over recent years from 45% in 2010 to only about 32% in 2021
You’re wrong. Please let’s not make things up. There was a indeed a faction that wanted to get out of Fitz’s contract but not because they wanted to deemphasize sports. They were pissed that they were spending so much money and investing so much in facilities and a new stadium and for a coach that hired JON, was 4-20, and and did not seem to remotely justify the job security and millions he was being given for a record of unarguably mediocre results at best, and downright putrid underachievement in the immediate past.
