Yes, I am skeptical. However, it is due to the Bullpen, defense and the Manager. I think the Sox rotation matches up with anyone in the American League.
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And you are perfectly entitled to feel that way. Obviously I don’t agree but that’s what makes message boards entertaining. Something different to talk about than one of the the mindless fire O’Neil and/or Springer threads that pollute the board these days.
Yeah, it's totally having opinions that makes you look angry and not the way you deliver them. No one else has opinions on this board because they are all afraid to express them, but it's your bravery that is so often mistaken for rage.
Nah...you're just angry and it makes you lash out even more when somebody calls you on it. You get some help with that.
What part of Italy is your family from? My Grandpa was off the boat from Castel San Pietro. He had opinions, but he wasn't angry that much.
I have issues with those things as well but the playoffs are all about pitching and I believe you’ll find the Sox starters won’t be able to step it up a level when the playoffs come around. I think Lynn is solid but I have my doubts about how Giolito and Cease will respond to the playoff pressure. Rodon I like but you have to be concerned about health.
I don't care if you've watched 100% of White Sox games this year. You clearly don't know what you're looking at. I said the sox can win it all. You said "put the crack pipe down" then went on and agreed with me.
What planet am I on?
Yeah, the Sox rotation is what has saved them through all the injuries this year. It's been a big positive surprise. There aren't any great, deep juggernaut rotations in the AL this year. Imagine how insane the Dodger rotation would be if they still had Bauer though. That's what a crazy rotation would look like.
I'm not a Tony hater, but I do think defense and bullpen could be the downfall. I could also see poor situational hitting being an issue. But I could also see the bullpen putting together a month of insane effectiveness as well. They have the arms to put it together...they just haven't all been locked in at the same time.
I love you how you have this power to ascertain another posters emotions online. I suggest you trademark that skill and sell it because it’s unique. Come to think of it, never mind because you suck at it pretty bad. Regardless, like I said,!if my posts bother you then I suggest you stop reading my posts. Or don’t. Either way I don’t really care.Yeah, it's totally having opinions that makes you look angry and not the way you deliver them. No one else has opinions on this board because they are all afraid to express them, but it's your bravery that is so often mistaken for rage.
Nah...you're just angry and it makes you lash out even more when somebody calls you on it. You get some help with that.
What part of Italy is your family from? My Grandpa was off the boat from Castel San Pietro. He had opinions, but he wasn't angry that much.
LOL, ok. I see we are playing a semantics game. If your comment was meant to imply that the Sox have a chance of winning it all just because any team in the playoffs by default has a chance of winning it all, then I withdraw my crack pipe comment. I don’t think that was the case but it sounds like that’s what you are trying to argue here.
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Yeah, totally not angry. It must be that people can't handle an Italian-American with opinions.
Yeah, totally not angry. It must be that people can't handle an Italian-American with opinions.
So anytime I tell you to buzz off I am angry? LOL, what has happened to our country? Everybody is so damn sensitive. Can I ask how old you are? I grew up in a family where constructive conflict and debate was encouraged. It sharpens the mind and toughens the skin. Arguing is a national pass time for Italians. We argue and two seconds later we are hugging and kissing. No anger, just passion. There is a difference.
I don't think the Sox make it to the WS - unless they catch lightening. But I like the next few years. We endured tremendous injuries to key players and held. That was impressive. I don't miss Heuer - I think he may have fallen to sticky pitching hands problem. In fact, I think that hurt much of our bullpen and Dallas.
I would like to see Vaughan in the OF next year. Not much true 2B talent in FAs - maybe take a flyer on KB? He is so versatile, we could play him anywhere. Also, like to see a splashy SP - maybe Bauer? I'm sure he wants out of LA. A some RP help. The future is now and is bright. Magic number is under 10. Cubs aren't even lining up for a top ten pick - go Cubs, win all these remaining meaningless games!
I would like to see Vaughan in the OF next year. Not much true 2B talent in FAs - maybe take a flyer on KB? He is so versatile, we could play him anywhere. Also, like to see a splashy SP - maybe Bauer? I'm sure he wants out of LA. A some RP help. The future is now and is bright. Magic number is under 10. Cubs aren't even lining up for a top ten pick - go Cubs, win all these remaining meaningless games!
I Like it. She has a smile on her face and so do it when I post. Can someone be angry if they are smiling?
Well, Michelle is asking...not being asked. But I think this guy might answer your question.
Well, Michelle is asking...not being asked. But I think this guy might answer your question.
That’s not a smile. He looks like he is passing gas!
I noticed that in the last 20 years - each team has been to and won 1 WS. Cubs have 5 playoff appearances to 3 for the Sox. That will even up next year. World Series appearances will very possibly flip back to favor the Sox. After listening to Flub fans dismiss our 2005 win because of their 2016 win, I look forward to feeding them the same garbage back. What, no WS appearances this decade? But what about the big window - Bryant, Rizzo, Baez, etc?
I can understand why corbi is angry - his Cubs sucked most of his life. The Bears are a constant source of aggravation. NU problems are largely self-inflicted. And his famous Italian-American upbringing excluded him from being part of the Mafia and making the real bucks
I can understand why corbi is angry - his Cubs sucked most of his life. The Bears are a constant source of aggravation. NU problems are largely self-inflicted. And his famous Italian-American upbringing excluded him from being part of the Mafia and making the real bucks
There are no semantics. Nobody has seen this team full bore one time (literally) this entire season, so you're judging them on a roster construction that won't be seen in the playoffs. They just gave Vaughn the phantom DL stint. He'll be back in a week. Come 9/21, assuming everything goes according to plan, the lineup will look something like this:
1. Anderson 6
2. Robert 8
3. Moncada 5
4. Abreu 3
5. Grandal 2
6. Eloy DH
7. Vaughn 7
8. Engel 9
9. Hernandez 4
Then Gio, Los and Lynn with Cease, Tepera, Kopech, Kimbrel and Hendriks with Bummer against LHP
This lineup, again, has not been seen once this year. It will be soon and that's a pretty deadly lineup. They are going to have 10ish games to gel and click as a lineup. Vegas thinks they have the 4th best shot at winning it all right now, behind the Giants, Dodgers, and Rays. They absolutely have an "average" shot at winning it all. Not saying they will, I'm saying they have a lot better shot than you're giving them credit for
Not based on what I am seeing and I guess that's what this debate is all about. We'll see who was right soon enough.
The point is you haven't seen that lineup. Not once. Nobody has. That's their best possible lineup but injuries have gutted them and they haven't been able to deploy it for a single game. Now they're almost fully healthy. Whatever your basing you're opinion on is not what you will be seeing come playoff time unless there are more injuries, which there won't be, fingers crossed.
I’ll say again, my issue is not with the lineup. In the playoffs it is all about pitching and i’ve Said from the start of the season that their starting staff was not good enough to win a World Series and I still feel that way.
Looks like the White Sox will match up with the Astros in the ALDS. Should be fun to watch. The Astros have their own weaknesses with their pitching staff.
Will be a great series I think. Unless the Jays shove out the Yankees, the winner of White Sox vs. Astros goes to the World Series IMO
Two years ago, the Astros had home field advantage in the WS against the Nats and lost games 6 and 7 at home. The year before, they won the WS on the road in LA. All the teams in the playoffs are very talented, and in the end, it comes down to which team gets the right bounce at the right time.
Good point. Plus I think the Astros swept them in a four game series in Houston earlier this season. That said, it all goes out the window when the playoffs start.
Sox playing to stay healthy, not have home field, so I kinda stopped caring about that. It's clear they aren't prioritizing it right now, which is ****ing stupid but whatever
Do you listen to yourself? You are rationalizing. I don’t think you’ll be very happy when the playoffs start.
What are you talking about? They're playing Anderson every other day. They've just given their 3 main SP all IL stints with "arm fatigue" and none of them are going more than 5IP right now unless completely cruising. I'm not rationalizing, I'm saying what they're doing. I don't like it and said it's stupid and that I hate it. It's clear what their priorities are for the last 2-3 weeks. Read my post again numb nuts
You are rationalizing the fact that they are going into the playoffs not playing very well. Playoffs are about pitching and teams that are hot. Two strikes for the White Sox right now numb nuts.
I'm excited to hear that the White Sox aren't playing well, and I'll take this to mean that the Astros will inevitably sweep them in the ALDS. Perhaps the games don't even need to be played, and the Sox will forfeit the series before it starts.
I have not watched one inning of Houston Astros baseball this year so I can’t say what’s going to happen in the series. I want the White Sox to do well in the playoffs since both my sons are huge fans and so invested in this team. Unfortunately I just don't see it happening unless the other playoff teams are just as flawed. I doubt that.
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Despite being on pace to win 90+ games, they've been inconsistent this year on offense and on the mound, which is why I'm nervous heading into the playoffs. They scored 35 runs in a four game series with the Rangers last week (on the road), and yet have scored only eight runs so far in two games against the lowly Diamondbacks (at home).
Baseball is a funny game. No telling what will happen when the playoffs start. The Astros lost the WS two years ago to a wild card team, and that was with Cole and Verlander in the rotation. The White Sox may have some weaknesses heading into the playoffs, but most other teams (including the Astros) do too.
Thank God this thread lives with the ongoing football debacle. Maybe the C will engage.
Here’s the thing Corb. You just admitted that you haven’t seen an inning of the Astros, so if this is typical of the other WS contenders how can you support an opinion that the WS are much more likely to have a first round exit than a World Series appearance. You point out the WS flaws but have no idea of other teams flaws.
I have seen the Astros and every other playoff team play several games this year. Believe me when I say they ALL have a flaw. It’s about who exposes that flaw in a short series. Houston will be favored in the series, so it’s entirely possible you will be right and the WS take an early exit. The experience they have in a playoff series worries me, but they are up and down and depends when you catch them. Their staff is good but doesn’t have that Elite Ace that can win 2 games by himself in a 5 game series. Baseball is hard to predict, watch Valdez or someone go off now that I said that.
Because I have watched enough baseball playoffs over the years to know that the teams that go far in the playoffs consistently have certain characteristics. Dominating starting pitching, a team that is hot and playing their best baseball going into the playoffs and a manager that is really sharp. I don't see any of those factors playing into the White Sox favor right now. While I have not seen much of the other playoff teams, I am confident there are a couple of teams that fit this description. There always are so I doubt this year will be any different.
I'm not rationalizing anything. Again, I'm telling you what they're doing. I don't like it, but it's what they're doing. They're yanking SP after 5IP and 75ish pitches and throwing guys like Ruiz and Burr after that in close games. Anderson is only playing every other day. It'd be one thing if they were playing their best players and trying to accumulate as many wins as possible right now and still losing, but they're not. They're prioritizing physical and mental rest. TLR said this himself 2 nights ago. He doesn't care about home field. I think that's stupid, but it is what it is. Nothing I can say changes that.
I would hope they start playing their best players in the next week or so every single game so they can hit the ground running in the playoffs.
I think, despite last night, the bats are coming around. Lots of hard hit balls right at people. Eloy is the only one not on it.
I wonder if Mercedes gets a thought to come in for the series. I could see sitting Vaughan out and running:
Anderson ss
Robert cf
Abreu 1b
Grandal c
Moncada 3b
Eloy lf
Garcia rf
Mercedes dh
Hernandez 2b
Bench - catcher, sheets, romy or mendick, maybe one more player?
If Mercedes brings that bat up from Charlotte and gets hot again, nowhere to hide from that lineup.
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