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Reality is you can’t win in the Big Ten when you are forced to use what really amounted to a six man rotation. Because of an injury Baran got 6 minutes and Jones his usual 8 minutes. They need more people. If they don’t go into next year with at least 12 players and no redshirts or 13 (two fifth years) if they redshirt Nicholson, you will have the same old problems.2-18 is looking more and more like the record I find most likely.
2-18 would make it the 2nd wort season this century.
1-19 would make it the worst.
Indeed, depressing.
Every game we play is not a big deal. We play hard, we have positives, bla bla bla... But reality is that, sooner or later they add up and we are 1-8.
Ugh
2-18 is looking more and more like the record I find most likely.
2-18 would make it the 2nd wort season this century.
1-19 would make it the worst.
Indeed, depressing.
Every game we play is not a big deal. We play hard, we have positives, bla bla bla... But reality is that, sooner or later they add up and we are 1-8.
Ugh
They haven’t given up at all. Don’t care about the record this year. Care about the young guys continuing to improve.even with that record i am still excited to see this group take the floor. every game. i also had zero expectations for this year. like with other bad records we've had cats teams just getting wiped out and dominated in certain aspects. i haven't seen that yet and it excites me. like while 2-18 could be likley, i also think the cats can go out and win 6 games - because they are in games and giving themselves a chance to win. maybe thats crazy but i don't feel desperate or hopeless
We’ve already had a 1 win in conference season this century, although we won eight total games so being below that is in play.
even with that record i am still excited to see this group take the floor. every game. i also had zero expectations for this year. like with other bad records we've had cats teams just getting wiped out and dominated in certain aspects. i haven't seen that yet and it excites me. like while 2-18 could be likley, i also think the cats can go out and win 6 games - because they are in games and giving themselves a chance to win. maybe thats crazy but i don't feel desperate or hopeless
Reality is you can’t win in the Big Ten when you are forced to use what really amounted to a six man rotation. Because of an injury Baran got 6 minutes and Jones his usual 8 minutes. They need more people. If they don’t go into next year with at least 12 players and no redshirts or 13 (two fifth years) if they redshirt Nicholson, you will have the same old problems.
I seem to remember an 0-16 Big Ten season in the 90s. Team won five nonconference games, I think, but as I remember it, the talent on that team was terribad compared to this group (and older too)That was a 1-17. Still arguably better than a 1-19 if that were to happen.
2-18 is looking more and more like the record I find most likely.
2-18 would make it the 2nd wort season this century.
1-19 would make it the worst.
Indeed, depressing.
Every game we play is not a big deal. We play hard, we have positives, bla bla bla... But reality is that, sooner or later they add up and we are 1-8.
Ugh
Need that water bucket Barnett used......."When we want to win as much as we want that next breath."
Not reallyThat was a 1-17. Still arguably better than a 1-19 if that were to happen.
Could Porter Moser be persuaded to coach Northwestern?
You really think they would have won any more games against the current BIG (12 teams in top 35-40) if they had played two more?State your case?
KenPom has NW as 113. I understand how a mathematical model arrives at that conclusion based on the data presented to it, but truth is I suspect the team is much better than that. There will be regression to the mean, and I’d expect that this team will not go 1-9 in the second half of the conference slate.
If they can string some wins together and build some momentum headed into the offseason, that will go a long way in recruiting and keeping the current roster intact.
You really think they would have won any more games against the current BIG (12 teams in top 35-40) if they had played two more?
Dan Mueller stinks.Moser is a solid coach, but recruiting at the next level is a whole 'nother ballgame. I think he made the decision that he's right where he wants to be. The folks at Illinois State must be feeling a bit chagrined as they watch their team sink lower in the Valley. Fired Moser after he finished 15-16 in his fourth season there.
You really think they would have won any more games against the current BIG (12 teams in top 35-40) if they had played two more?
I don't know. And that is why I said "arguably". Because ignoring everything else, and going just by the record, 1-19 would be worse than 1-17.
Without getting too sophisticated, the 1-17 (8-22 overall), in 07/08, was not that bad talent wise, compared to other years. They were youngish, led by a FR Juice averaging 11.6/4.3, a SO Coble, averaging 15.9/5.4 and a JR Craig Moore, averaging 13.4. Kind of suggest the B1G was no easy.
The next year, with the addition of a FR Shurna, they won 8 B1G games. And were 17-14 overall.
The B1G only got 4 tourney teams that year out of 11 and was rated as the 5th-best conference per Kenpom. Don't think it's even a close comparison with this year being rated the best conference by far and anywhere from 9-12 potential tourney teams.I don't know. And that is why I said "arguably". Because ignoring everything else, and going just by the record, 1-19 would be worse than 1-17.
Without getting too sophisticated, the 1-17 (8-22 overall), in 07/08, was not that bad talent wise, compared to other years. They were youngish, led by a FR Juice averaging 11.6/4.3, a SO Coble, averaging 15.9/5.4 and a JR Craig Moore, averaging 13.4. Kind of suggest the B1G was no easy.
The next year, with the addition of a FR Shurna, they won 8 B1G games. And were 17-14 overall.
The B1G only got 4 tourney teams that year out of 11 and was rated as the 5th-best conference per Kenpom. Don't think it's even a close comparison with this year being rated the best conference by far and anywhere from 9-12 potential tourney teams.
No, however they did get to pay 5-13 IL and MICH as well as 6-12 IA and 7/11 PSU. Presently 9 teams are 500 or better in conference vs only 5 that year. 5 teams finished with less than 500 records with only two presently. There were 3 ranked teams back then. Only 4 NCAA bids vs as many as 8-12 currently projected for this year. Even a 10-8 OSU only went to NIT. We lost the BIG /ACC challenge 8/3. Face it. BIG was no where near as strong then as now so no where near as many opportunities for victories as then. Plus you were much more likely to play bad teams more than once than now as you would play 8 of the other 10 teams twice vs now where you play only 6/13 twice.Would they have gotten to play Nebraska?
No, however they did get to pay 5-13 IL and MICH as well as 6-12 IA and 7/11 PSU. Presently 9 teams are 500 or better in conference vs only 5 that year. 5 teams finished with less than 500 records with only two presently. There were 3 ranked teams back then. Only 4 NCAA bids vs as many as 8-12 currently projected for this year. Even a 10-8 OSU only went to NIT. We lost the BIG /ACC challenge 8/3. Face it. BIG was no where near as strong then as now so no where near as many opportunities for victories as then. Plus you were much more likely to play bad teams more than once than now as you would play 8 of the other 10 teams twice vs now where you play only 6/13 twice.
I would say 3-17 is the most likely outcome at this point. But it is possible it could end up worse. Also could end up better. Tough schedule for a mediocre team.2-18 is looking more and more like the record I find most likely.
2-18 would make it the 2nd wort season this century.
1-19 would make it the worst.
Indeed, depressing.
Every game we play is not a big deal. We play hard, we have positives, bla bla bla... But reality is that, sooner or later they add up and we are 1-8.
Ugh
I would say 3-17 is the most likely outcome at this point. But it is possible it could end up worse. Also could end up better. Tough schedule for a mediocre team.
And more likely CCC will have a worse winning percentage.....hard to see 2 more B1G wins. Better recruiter (although hasn't pulled in a Shurna yet) worse offensive coach. Meh.Interestingly, a 3-17 record would put CCC at an NU career winning percentage almost exactly the same as his predecessor both overall and in the B1G.
Who cares about the wins this year? What needs to happen the rest of the way is Nance showing something. Anything to build on. Right now, he comes off the bench next year. This can’t happen. NU needs him to double double frequently and stop the turnovers.
Who cares about the wins this year? What needs to happen the rest of the way is Nance showing something. Anything to build on. Right now, he comes off the bench next year. This can’t happen. NU needs him to double double frequently and stop the turnovers.