First BC was a good BB coach but brilliant is a stretch. Secondly, if I was choosing I would much rather listen to a upbeat Collins then a boring Carmody. Do you think the Carmody's teams were undermanned because of the recruits he brought in ? I do. I'm still waiting for Carmody to thank the fans who cheered at the games. and most importantly the kids who broke their butts for him. he had 13 well paid for seasons at NU at not even a thank you press release. Many coaches when fired make statements of thanks and good luck as they leave, Carmody has been silent.
I've really tried to avoid commenting on much this thread, but thanks to this quote (and some delicious beverages) here goes.
Willy, you're
wrong. Carmody is a hell a basketball coach, hands down. As a previous poster pointed out, Carmody demands more respect from his peers than Collins. End of story. Please do not confuse "basketball coach" with "face of the program". Also, please note that I did not say that CC shouldn't be the head man of NU hoops in 2016.
I'm quite excited about Collins and his upside (especially in recruiting), but let's be real. Who has brought in elite talent to Evanston during
modern era of NU hoops (prior to Collins...which the jury is still out on)? O'Neil was lauded as an outstanding recruiter prior to his arrival and he gave us J'tim (who I was a big fan of). That was it. Byrdsong = Esch. No more. Foster brought in some players, but couldn't convince them to stay more than two years. Carmody/Hardy gave us Coble, Thompson, Shurna, Crawford, and Cobb (who when healthy was pretty darn good). Demps and Olah have turned out to be solid contributors. I'm not saying BC was a great recruiter, but he did guide NU to the post season on
four separate occasions (should have been five and was a win away from a potential sixth), half of which were a victory or two short from an NCAA birth. Who else has done that? Remember, NU had notched a grand total of
three NIT births prior to Carmody's arrival.
Willy, you keep saying "how the board police have drove away posters". I contend it's nonsense like this (and your ilk: read Turk, et all) this that make
many of us not want to visit WR. The silliness you post in attempt to backhand Carmody on every other thread is tiresome. To the tiniest critique of Collins I see comments like, "well we should give him at least 12 years", or in this thread, "thank the kids that broke their butts for him". NEWSFLASH: not surprisingly, many of Carmody's former players actually like him (this comes from actual conversations with said athletes).
I've said it before and I'll say it again: many of us who appreciated Carmody's time at NU are fairly pleased with Collins' tenure and hope he will be able to bring the 'Cats to the promised land and soon. That being said, CC isn't flawless and some areas of his work should be subject to criticism. Shocking!
So my question is this: Why are you still obsessed with the headman of the previous administration that was let go nearly three years ago?
Seriously!
Your war is over. Just because Collins hasn't accomplished anything tangible (in regards to wins or the postseason, yet), doesn't mean you need to slam the previous coach anymore than you have. This post says it all:
Medilll: What I like about this thread is that it's all fresh material. You'd never be able to guess the names of posters by their comments.
Willy: "Right, so what should we all discuss, why the students don't show or why the purple seats are half empty, or why many ST holders sell tickets to opposing fans. Are any of those things OK? BTW, we have discussed other past coaches hers, like O'Neil, Winters, Falk, Foster and it just so happens that Carmody is the most recent, thus most interesting for the moment. Now let's guess who CC will bring in when that next schlorship becomes available. Maybe a 5th year PG or C. Happy now?"
Ignoring the lack of coherence in the response, might I suggest the following relevant subject material:
A discussion/summation of NU's chances against their next opponent, Michigan (who looked pretty good against Maryland today). That seems appropriate, no? How about conversation on BIG tournament seeding? Perhaps another NIT thread with updated data?...Naw, let's just bash Carmody some more (because that's not a dead horse)!
Schadenfreude for all!