NJCat said:

These things are dumb, but they have Brooks going at #59 to my Cleveland Cavaliers......

2025 NBA mock draft: After Cooper Flagg and Dylan Harper, a whole lot of questions

All told, this is not shaping up to be the monstrous class that was projected in some corners.

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His best path if he plays in US (drafted or not) will be to have a good showing at Las Vegas Summer League and get a two-way deal. He would get g-league experience and be able to play up to 50 games in NBA. And it makes just short of $600k. Next best route is getting an exhibit 10 deal which basically is a non-guaranteed deal to be on a preseason NBA roster. They usually are immediately cut but the player gets a $75k bonus to play for their g-league team. Frequently, a good showing in g-league leads to a two-way spot. This is the route Buie took and it eventually led to a two-way deal with Knicks. Non-US is an option to especially for more money in the near term. Former Illini C Kofi Cockburn went (after a disastrous summer league) this route to Japan and now Korea. He makes good money and puts monster numbers against smaller and less skilled competition.

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James Franklin is such a fool.

I despise PSU more only because I felt they didn't suffer enough for their transgressions several years ago.

As for Notre Dame, I think my hatred of them stems from something that goes way back to the 1980s and 1990s with their special love and considerations given to them by the media, like Tim Brown winning the Heisman or getting their own TV deal. It just became fun to root against them (like the Yankees or Duke basketball), partly because they were always good and partly because so many people gush over them. I always hated Nebraska for the same reason and have had special joy at their usual mediocrity since moving to the Big Ten.

I met my wife in 2002, and she's not a sports fan, so she knew nothing of 1995. I've tried to explain many times just how enormous NU's victory over Notre Dame was in 1995, and I'm not sure she'll ever get it. If NU beat another team ranked in the top 10 and favored by 28 to start that run that year, it would have been a great upset, but it wouldn't have been the same. Freaking Notre Dame! Beaten by lowly Northwestern!

NJCat said:

These things are dumb, but they have Brooks going at #59 to my Cleveland Cavaliers......

2025 NBA mock draft: After Cooper Flagg and Dylan Harper, a whole lot of questions

All told, this is not shaping up to be the monstrous class that was projected in some corners.

www.nytimes.com

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The Cavs would be an incredible organization for Barny

Purple Pile Driver said:

Every fanbase has knuckleheads. Being from Chicagoland, I have probably been to 20 games in South Bend. I have never once seen opposing fans taking abuse there. I was wearing my NU gear for the Brian Kelly mismanaged debacle. If there every was a game to leave pissed as a ND fan, this qualifies. No issues at all. There are B1G schools where you getting treated NU much worse. At Wisconsin, I fear for my life sometimes!

I believe they get a lot of hate for a high percentage of over the top subway fans. They can be very vocal, with their only affiliation being Irish or Catholic. The admissions selectivity causes the perception of arrogance. Hey, but how is that different than NU? Been around graduates from both schools that give off this aura.

I know most don’t agree with this, but I was happy ND sent James home. Let’s see who he blames for this loss. I haven’t been to PSU, but their fans coming to NU can certainly be knuckleheads too with their dancing and taunting while Franklin throws unnecessary bombs to run up the score.

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That’s right PPD! Go Irish ☘️

The fact that he's being talked about is awesome. He'll get looks. And if he can become a good 3 pt shooter he has a future.

Raw talent wise I feel IL and IN are the most stacked teams.

MI can play "two centers" because Wolf is so versitile, can shoot the 3, can act a bit like a point center. They've been scary good.

Clearly reading comprehension is not a prerequisite for OSU fandom

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StreamCat said:

The first time I went to a game at Notre Dame many years ago, I was cheering for the opponent. The ND fans were very nice to me. I went twice to cheer for Northwestern against ND. Again the Irish fans were great even after NU won. I have gone to scores of other ND games because my son went there. I have yet to find the arrogance that everyone attributes to the Irish faithful. I am bewildered by the hatred. Just because some of you might work with a couple Notre Dame a-holes hardly makes you experts on the fan base. My guess is some of you go at them with several chips on both shoulders. The knock on ND fans is baseless. Maybe the problem is not them. I write this because I’ve encountered undeserved belligerence from folks who go at me simply because I'm wearing ND gear. Physician, heal thyself.

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Every fanbase has knuckleheads. Being from Chicagoland, I have probably been to 20 games in South Bend. I have never once seen opposing fans taking abuse there. I was wearing my NU gear for the Brian Kelly mismanaged debacle. If there every was a game to leave pissed as a ND fan, this qualifies. No issues at all. There are B1G schools where you getting treated NU much worse. At Wisconsin, I fear for my life sometimes!

I believe they get a lot of hate for a high percentage of over the top subway fans. They can be very vocal, with their only affiliation being Irish or Catholic. The admissions selectivity causes the perception of arrogance. Hey, but how is that different than NU? Been around graduates from both schools that give off this aura.

I know most don’t agree with this, but I was happy ND sent James home. Let’s see who he blames for this loss. I haven’t been to PSU, but their fans coming to NU can certainly be knuckleheads too with their dancing and taunting while Franklin throws unnecessary bombs to run up the score.

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Hope both B1G teams get their asses kicked!

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The first time I went to a game at Notre Dame many years ago, I was cheering for the opponent. The ND fans were very nice to me. I went twice to cheer for Northwestern against ND. Again the Irish fans were great even after NU won. I have gone to scores of other ND games because my son went there. I have yet to find the arrogance that everyone attributes to the Irish faithful. I am bewildered by the hatred. Just because some of you might work with a couple Notre Dame a-holes hardly makes you experts on the fan base. My guess is some of you go at them with several chips on both shoulders. The knock on ND fans is baseless. Maybe the problem is not them. I write this because I’ve encountered undeserved belligerence from folks who go at me simply because I'm wearing ND gear. Physician, heal thyself.

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stpaulcat said:

Northwestern in many respects is not that different from ND. Founded 10 years apart, in the Midwest, similar enrollments, private research institutions, both ladies of a lake. Except for the Catholic thing, but NU is firmly Methodist (just walk around Evanston), who just happened not to have a Vatican. At the turn of the 19th Century, NU clearly had the superior football team. Then something happened--Knute Rockne, the four horsemen, etc. for 13 years in the 1920's. This took hold on the American psyche, and led to a century of ND football pomposity (keeping in mind the Vatican). But NU still has a chance. Never forget, "It's all right, it's okay, you will work for us some day." If NU ever gets great at football again, we will own pomposity.

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Nice post st paul. Keep up the good work here on the free board

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stpaulcat said:

Northwestern in many respects is not that different from ND. Founded 10 years apart, in the Midwest, similar enrollments, private research institutions, both ladies of a lake. Except for the Catholic thing, but NU is firmly Methodist (just walk around Evanston), who just happened not to have a Vatican. At the turn of the 19th Century, NU clearly had the superior football team. Then something happened--Knute Rockne, the four horsemen, etc. for 13 years in the 1920's. This took hold on the American psyche, and led to a century of ND football pomposity (keeping in mind the Vatican). But NU still has a chance. Never forget, "It's all right, it's okay, you will work for us some day." If NU ever gets great at football again, we will own pomposity.

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The first time I heard that chant was a basketball game in 1980 or 81. We lost to the Tripucka/Woolridge/Duck Williams team more or less 80 to 40. I have long found the whole Touchdown Jesus/Rudy/special TV contract/etc. thing extremely pretentious so they're not my favorites. But some of my non-NU friends tell me we have a streak of that too.

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