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ILL expects 18 starters to return.

And Happy Valley, South Bend, and the like are?

Illinois is a basketball school. It’s not some sleeping football giant and football will always be second fiddle there.

But that doesn’t mean they have to be incompetent, and they’ve been incompetent and further crushed in recruiting by Fitz for YEARS. Bret Beilema may be a variety of things, but incompetent is not what one of them.
He’s a tool, but he can win games. There is no doubt about that.
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If you want to dislike him because of what he said when he left, fine. But you have no idea what he was told behind closed doors or what other signals he was being given. Apparently he felt his opportunity was closed off so he moved on. We got QBs from other schools that transferred to NU for similar reasons (Ramsey, Bryant, Wright, etc) so stop being a hypocrite,
I trust the people I trust if you know what I mean. He was not firmly entrenched as the back up, like Ramsey . Completely different. He ran away from the competition for whatever reason. Jack was not guaranteed a starter spot and Sully wasn’t behind a Cam Ward like player! If you went to the open Spring practice, you could clearly see Sully was not differentiating himself from the other QB’s. Entitlement never sets well with me.
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So, who do you despise more…

I agree on all points excrpt for the Notre Dame hate.

Like many posters, I’m part Irish and a reformed Catholic. They are just a well reputed school trying to make it as an independent.

P$U is oblivious. How is Franklin still their head coach?
There are plenty of reasons for NU fans to dislike ND.

Franklin is still there (at PSU) because like it or not he has been reasonably successful

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Weak. He lost the competitive and he ran away from it, make all the excuses you want, he didn’t want to compete for the job.
If you want to dislike him because of what he said when he left, fine. But you have no idea what he was told behind closed doors or what other signals he was being given. Apparently he felt his opportunity was closed off so he moved on. We got QBs from other schools that transferred to NU for similar reasons (Ramsey, Bryant, Wright, etc) so stop being a hypocrite,

Gronowski to Iowa

I still find it odd that Gronowski didn’t seem interested in reconnecting with Lujan by coming to NU. Should that tell us something about Lujan? Or was Gronowski still undecided about entering the portal when Stone became available? I suppose we’ll never know.
He waited too long and our deal with our QB was already pressed in stone...

I'll keep using that pun until Cappy starts deleting it.
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