StreamCat said:

The first time I went to a game at Notre Dame many years ago, I was cheering for the opponent. The ND fans were very nice to me. I went twice to cheer for Northwestern against ND. Again the Irish fans were great even after NU won. I have gone to scores of other ND games because my son went there. I have yet to find the arrogance that everyone attributes to the Irish faithful. I am bewildered by the hatred. Just because some of you might work with a couple Notre Dame a-holes hardly makes you experts on the fan base. My guess is some of you go at them with several chips on both shoulders. The knock on ND fans is baseless. Maybe the problem is not them. I write this because I’ve encountered undeserved belligerence from folks who go at me simply because I'm wearing ND gear. Physician, heal thyself.

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CappyNU said:

Kenpom and Torvik have NU +3, so figure somewhere around there plus a point or two assuming more people will back MSU due to their reputation and their obliteration of Washington last night.

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TheC said:

Sparty has been playing really good ball lately. They've always had talented guys, but they have underperformed in recent years. I think this group is starting to figure things out. I think if we pull out a win this weekend, it would be a very impressive upset. At the very least, let's hope Cohen Carr doesn't posterize one of our guys. He is a freak!

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AdamOnFirst said:

Both passing games were pretty pathetic, but Penn State was BAD BAD BAD pathetic. Aller was horrible, which isn't new for him. He's very lucky he only had one INT. Penn State also had ZERO completions to wide receivers, which is wild.

ND is going to be a sizeable underdog to whichever team wins tonight, which is fair. Their defense is legit and Leonard is enough of a gamer to beat a more talented team if they make mistakes, which is exactly how they beat Georgia, but a crisp Ohio State has way too much firepower on both sides of the ball for them to compete. Too much of these playoffs have been determined by the ordering of the bracket, particularly the Ohio State - Oregon pairing.

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Skunkpilot said:

Anyone see a line yet for Sunday’s game?? Curious to hear what the oddsmakers think.

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prez77 said:

And the TKO goes to ND. PS was stronger at the line of scrimmage on both sides but Allar threw it away and ND made the clutch throws. PS with no passing game.

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