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StreamCat said:
The first time I went to a game at Notre Dame many years ago, I was cheering for the opponent. The ND fans were very nice to me. I went twice to cheer for Northwestern against ND. Again the Irish fans were great even after NU won. I have gone to scores of other ND games because my son went there. I have yet to find the arrogance that everyone attributes to the Irish faithful. I am bewildered by the hatred. Just because some of you might work with a couple Notre Dame a-holes hardly makes you experts on the fan base. My guess is some of you go at them with several chips on both shoulders. The knock on ND fans is baseless. Maybe the problem is not them. I write this because I’ve encountered undeserved belligerence from folks who go at me simply because I'm wearing ND gear. Physician, heal thyself.
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Every fanbase has knuckleheads. Being from Chicagoland, I have probably been to 20 games in South Bend. I have never once seen opposing fans taking abuse there. I was wearing my NU gear for the Brian Kelly mismanaged debacle. If there every was a game to leave pissed as a ND fan, this qualifies. No issues at all. There are B1G schools where you getting treated NU much worse. At Wisconsin, I fear for my life sometimes!

I believe they get a lot of hate for a high percentage of over the top subway fans. They can be very vocal, with their only affiliation being Irish or Catholic. The admissions selectivity causes the perception of arrogance. Hey, but how is that different than NU? Been around graduates from both schools that give off this aura.

I know most don’t agree with this, but I was happy ND sent James home. Let’s see who he blames for this loss. I haven’t been to PSU, but their fans coming to NU can certainly be knuckleheads too with their dancing and taunting while Franklin throws unnecessary bombs to run up the score.
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StreamCat
The first time I went to a game at Notre Dame many years ago, I was cheering for the opponent. The ND fans were very nice to me. I went twice to cheer for Northwestern against ND. Again the Irish fans were great even after NU won. I have gone to scores of other ND games because my son went there. I have yet to find the arrogance that everyone attributes to the Irish faithful. I am bewildered by the hatred. Just because some of you might work with a couple Notre Dame a-holes hardly makes you experts on the fan base. My guess is some of you go at them with several chips on both shoulders. The knock on ND fans is baseless. Maybe the problem is not them. I write this because I’ve encountered undeserved belligerence from folks who go at me simply because I'm wearing ND gear. Physician, heal thyself.
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So, who do you despise more…

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stpaulcat said:
Northwestern in many respects is not that different from ND. Founded 10 years apart, in the Midwest, similar enrollments, private research institutions, both ladies of a lake. Except for the Catholic thing, but NU is firmly Methodist (just walk around Evanston), who just happened not to have a Vatican. At the turn of the 19th Century, NU clearly had the superior football team. Then something happened--Knute Rockne, the four horsemen, etc. for 13 years in the 1920's. This took hold on the American psyche, and led to a century of ND football pomposity (keeping in mind the Vatican). But NU still has a chance. Never forget, "It's all right, it's okay, you will work for us some day." If NU ever gets great at football again, we will own pomposity.
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Nice post st paul. Keep up the good work here on the free board
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stpaulcat said:
Northwestern in many respects is not that different from ND. Founded 10 years apart, in the Midwest, similar enrollments, private research institutions, both ladies of a lake. Except for the Catholic thing, but NU is firmly Methodist (just walk around Evanston), who just happened not to have a Vatican. At the turn of the 19th Century, NU clearly had the superior football team. Then something happened--Knute Rockne, the four horsemen, etc. for 13 years in the 1920's. This took hold on the American psyche, and led to a century of ND football pomposity (keeping in mind the Vatican). But NU still has a chance. Never forget, "It's all right, it's okay, you will work for us some day." If NU ever gets great at football again, we will own pomposity.
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The first time I heard that chant was a basketball game in 1980 or 81. We lost to the Tripucka/Woolridge/Duck Williams team more or less 80 to 40. I have long found the whole Touchdown Jesus/Rudy/special TV contract/etc. thing extremely pretentious so they're not my favorites. But some of my non-NU friends tell me we have a streak of that too.
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