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OT: Legalizing Sports Gambling Was a Huge Mistake (Atlantic)

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What about the integrity of the games? Since it will be almost impossible to monitor every referee/umpire, player, manager/coach betting will be effecting the outcomes of the games. Just a matter of time if it hasn’t happened already.

We NU fans had a taste of gambling changing outcomes in the ‘90’s. Dennis Lundy was caught up in that affair.

He even admitted in 1993 after the Ohio State game at Dyche Stadium to running to the wrong hole on the two point conversion that would have tied the game with almost no time left.

Was that a mistake or intentional so as to keep his legs from getting broken?
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OT: Legalizing Sports Gambling Was a Huge Mistake (Atlantic)

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AdamOnFirst said:
Some people are problem gamblers. Some people are problem drinkers. Many many people are problem spenders.

This doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have the right to do any of those things responsibly and accept the consequences of doing so.
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I think gambling is stupid. I think guns are incredibly stupid. I think smoking is stupid, whether it's tobacco or marijuana. However, I recognize not everyone agrees, so I am not a proponent for making everything illegal. What I do think is a reasonable compromise is to limit the marketing in the same way that we limit marketing of some of these other items. We allow our government to restrict tobacco and alcohol marketing, especially when we think it might target minors. Not sure why we can't limit the obscene marketing of gambling that we are seeing.
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Rationale on the goal line strategy?

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AdamOnFirst said:
- No Cam Porter and neither of our remaining two backs are competent power options
- Both guards and the center are all not the same guys who started the year in those spots due to injury. If you’re gonna stuff it up the middle these are the guys who are supposed to do it and you’re held together by duct tape and deep into depth there.
- Literally replaced the center mid game for a play that requires excellent center->QB execution
- Pretty clear gun-shyness after the weight fumble early (not justifying if this one is rational)
- Washington has a good D line and was selling out vs the run because our receivers were no threat

I’m not saying a QB run and/or sneak shouldn’t have been attempted, IMO at least one little pistol sneak by Lausch should have been tried (in addition to the three other run plays inside the 2 that were stuffed) but those are the reasons I can think of and some of them are at least reasonable on their own.
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Fact is that the more you look at it the more the decision to go for a FG is no where near as bad as people keep saying. The expected value was much higher than going for it on 4th and goal
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Where’s the stickem for our receivers?

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hdhntr1 said:
Stop. Fitz did not lead to the transfer of top OL, or the transfer of Sullivan and Tyus. He was not the reason we lost the top half of a recruiting class and had others in another class decide at the last minute to go elsewhere. And like it or not, Jake is the reason we even had Lausch and Sullivan. (Gray is still an unknown) The blame is more Gragg and Schill and the way things were handled that left us in the situation we are in. It hurt the 23 class (guys deciding at last minute not to come) and absolutely destroyed the 24 class that ws shaping up to be Fitz's best (more than the top half went elsewhere and replaced with mostly 2 stars ). Portal exits (over entries) have killed our depth. Have to think that Fitz might have tried to adress RB room through portal as well and it was getting thin.

But you are likely talking mostly about QB and we did not get as much in the way of top QB targets as we would like but Jake did bring in a couple guys that he could work with in his system and he was bringing them along (Sullivan and Lausch)
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We haven't recruited a qualified starting QB since Thorson committed, which was a decade ago. You can't pin that on Schill and Gragg - that's all Fitz and Bajakian. No, Sullivan and Lausch don't count. Sullivan lost out to Wright/Lausch and is on the bench in Iowa behind a very marginal starter. Lausch, well, we all saw his level of play last week.
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How many wins?

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PurpleWhiteBoy said:
I'd say Sagarin's method suggests (fairly strongly) that we will not be favored to win another game.
But there's a lot of football ahead.
If things go our way, we may be favored at Purdue!

However, if you add up the probabilities of NU winning each game on the remaining schedule, Sagarin is telling us to expect something between 1 and 2 more wins...

46% chance at Purdue, 35% chance hosting Wisconsin, 30% chance hosting Indiana, 17% chance at Maryland, 5% chance at Iowa, 25% chance to beat Illinois, 2% chance to beat Michigan, 0.1% chance to beat Ohio State.
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25% against IL? At Wrigley? Maybe at home but at Wrigley?
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Where’s the stickem for our receivers?

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peatymeanis said:
Not a lot of good choices due to the bare cupboard Fitz and Bajakian left us. At a minimum the QB competition should be opened up again. If Lausch continues to be by far the best performer in practice then so be it.
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Stop. Fitz did not lead to the transfer of top OL, or the transfer of Sullivan and Tyus. He was not the reason we lost the top half of a recruiting class and had others in another class decide at the last minute to go elsewhere. And like it or not, Jake is the reason we even had Lausch and Sullivan. (Gray is still an unknown) The blame is more Gragg and Schill and the way things were handled that left us in the situation we are in. It hurt the 23 class (guys deciding at last minute not to come) and absolutely destroyed the 24 class that ws shaping up to be Fitz's best (more than the top half went elsewhere and replaced with mostly 2 stars ). Portal exits (over entries) have killed our depth. Have to think that Fitz might have tried to adress RB room through portal as well and it was getting thin.

But you are likely talking mostly about QB and we did not get as much in the way of top QB targets as we would like but Jake did bring in a couple guys that he could work with in his system and he was bringing them along (Sullivan and Lausch)
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How many wins?

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PurpleWhiteBoy said:
I'd say Sagarin's method suggests (fairly strongly) that we will not be favored to win another game.
But there's a lot of football ahead.
If things go our way, we may be favored at Purdue!

However, if you add up the probabilities of NU winning each game on the remaining schedule, Sagarin is telling us to expect something between 1 and 2 more wins...

46% chance at Purdue, 35% chance hosting Wisconsin, 30% chance hosting Indiana, 17% chance at Maryland, 5% chance at Iowa, 25% chance to beat Illinois, 2% chance to beat Michigan, 0.1% chance to beat Ohio State.
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This could get ugly if the offense doesn't improve somehow. Hopefully we don't have any additional losses on the defense. The defensive backs already need to improve based on what we saw at Washington
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How many wins?

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hdhntr1 said:
In other words, they don't see us winning another game
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I'd say Sagarin's method suggests (fairly strongly) that we will not be favored to win another game.
But there's a lot of football ahead.
If things go our way, we may be favored at Purdue!

However, if you add up the probabilities of NU winning each game on the remaining schedule, Sagarin is telling us to expect something between 1 and 2 more wins...

46% chance at Purdue, 35% chance hosting Wisconsin, 30% chance hosting Indiana, 17% chance at Maryland, 5% chance at Iowa, 25% chance to beat Illinois, 2% chance to beat Michigan, 0.1% chance to beat Ohio State.
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How many wins?

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AdamOnFirst said:
I have no idea why people have suddenly decided Maryland is anything to be more concerned than usual about. Also I get Indiana looks improved, but let’s all take a chill pill crowning them because they’ve beat up some FCS teams and a completely incompetent and crappy UCLA
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It is more about us than it is about them. We have no depth on offense in key areas (OL, RB, WR) and injuries are gonna happen (we have already seen the impact on the O of not having Porter). Plus the game is there. And should we be fortunate enough to win, that still only gets us to 4 (assuming a win against Purdue)
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Brady Koehler visiting NU 8/1-8/3

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CoralSpringsCat said:
Guess being Catholic was a close second for Koehler.
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Well, in this kids case, he is graduating from Cathedral High School in Indianapolis, where the team name is the Fightin Irish.
It happens to be Micah Shrewsberry's alma mater.
So, not a real shock that he'd take the Notre Dame offer.

However, I'd still put the NIL money, the playing time and the coach ahead of the Catholic aspect.

I'll just assume we were his 2nd choice (ahead of Iowa, Wake and Va Tech, obviously) and that Collins can snag him via the portal after Koehler gets in Shewsberry's doghouse.
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