zeek55 said:

Thank you for saying that. And I'm aware that I've participated in these discussions too often, will try to avoid as best as possible.

Like we just played the first game of the season; why do we care about rehashing endless old discussions.

Braun's 14 games into his career here as HC; surely we have a million other things to discuss about the game that just happened and the next one.

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techtim72 said:

I don't understand how posters can endlessly churn on Fitz, Jon, Bragg. Schill, hazing, no hazing, McCall, NIL, etc, etc. It pretty much all has been said five million times already. For me, it is striking how little detailed football discussion there is on Saturday's game. I would love to see posts, for example, such as how the new right tackle, Wrather, performed since pre-game there were concerns. But I am not a football guru so I comment around the technical edges looking for the savants to engage. From my perspective as a medium long term subscriber, this type of engagement has declined dramatically over the years with 90% of the comments now some form of complaint about the coaches, administration or the NCAA world. Boring.

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NJCat said:

Braun made the point in his post-game presser that the best way to avoid sacks is to get the ball out on time, which agrees with your observation.

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hdhntr1 said:

Lou and Matt? What are you talking about? It was the Daily Northwestern and National media

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NUCat320 said:

Only if you think Lou and Matt were on a mission to get Paddy Fitz fired.

If Fitz, Gragg, and Schill had come up with any suspension with any teeth, Fitz would he head coach still.

Thankfully, they handled the situation like dolts and we are left with a head coach who is everything Fitz was 10 years ago, a defensive coordinator who would have gotten the job if Fitz had hired on merit and not the buddy system, and a new AD who actually knows how to support and engage with college athletes.

The hazing scandal is forgotten, Fitz is the past, and NU’s stadium — with reference only to the future — is one of the bigger stories of a quiet college football weekend.

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DaCat said:

JON was obviously a disaster but we ended up with Braun eventually as a result so talk about turning a big lemon into lemonade!

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zeek55 said:

Doubt McGarigle was learning anything from JON...

That looked nothing like JON's defenses.



Fitz's long-term plan was always to make McGarigle DC here in all likelihood; the issue was just Hank retired a bit early for McGarigle to step in (hindsight being 20/20, yeah he should've just gone straight to McGarigle and skipped JON).

I think we lucked out getting Braun here last year to right the ship and properly re-orient the defense. That was critical imo for McGarigle to be able to take over this past offseason with the defense in a good place and with so many returning on that side of the ball.

Transition appears to have worked perfectly with the defense looked as good as it did in the 2nd half of last year.

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NUCat320 said:

Lou and Matt did excellent reporting that validated that hazing was persistent and real. People who pretend that there wasn’t hazing and that it was a media creation, by extension, accuse Lou and Matt as being part of the pitchfork mob.

They weren’t. They’re journalists that helped tell a story that NU — embarrassingly — tried to bury.




Braun’s class looks a lot like Fitz’s. And has already gotten commitments from two A-list quarterbacks — something Fitz couldn’t do in his last decade.

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zeek55 said:

Not fair to point this at them considering the story went from the Daily to national media and ran amok there.

They didn't have anything to do with this in particular.

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curdog said:

Reminder, Braun is winning with Fitz recruits. Fitz greatest attribute was his ability to convince talented football players to come to NU and play in front of a half empty stadium.

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CMcCat said:

Someone should do some reporting on what kept McG clean of the “hazing” taint. I wonder if his potential was understood and he was kept clear of the damage that befell others from perceived association with the scandal.

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CMcCat said:

Coupled with the fact that there have been no identified perpetrators.

Of course, that fact might lead some to question if there was any “hazing.”

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