Roper seemed like a solid player who was a better defender than Ty and worse at the 3. I thought he'd worked on that and gotten better his last year with NU, but got hurt and lost his spot to Ty during the season. The Cats would have been better had he stayed. And Simmons had potential, but would probably have sat the bench developing until his junior year, then split time on the court, and apparently that wasn't good enough for him.
Collins to Villanova rumors
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You’re one nervous nelly. Collins isn’t going anywhere.
If Willard leaves it’s partly because Maryland fans have been hostile towards him because he generally hasn’t lived up to their unrealistic expectations. He was potentially getting fired if they didn’t have a good season this year. Maryland fans would lose it if Willard left and his replacement was a sitting Big Ten coach with a 37% conference win pct.
That’s allegedly why Nova hasn’t shown him much interest yet. I think he’s a good coach, but if you’re Nova (or Maryland) the optics are going to make it hard to sell to your fans who have huge expectations and will be immediately turned off by the W/L record
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I guess that's the silver lining to all of the agonizing losses this year. If NU flips just three games, they're 20-13 with spot in the NCAAs and Collins looks like a great coach to the Villanovas of the world. But instead NU loses and his record isn't good enough to satisfy them.
These fans don’t have the mental acumen to realize that what CC has done with the talent he has, when you adjust for the talent gap, is extraordinary? This is no dig on our players, who we love, but many were not the most heavily recruited. I’m all good if they can’t piece that together.
The guru has updated the forecast. As usual, take it with a big ol' cube o' salt.
You sure? They snubbed Indiana with basically the same record (we got that extra win by winning in BTT and if we had won 3 more we would not have been playing MN) Or Ohio State with similar Kenprom. Just saying we don't get much respect
I recall after that loss to Maryland, collins was getting emotional in the postgame presser about what Maryland had meant to him having played against them and having coached there while at Duke.
I remember that as well. Man, that's some 4-D Star Trek Chess Coach Collins is playing if he was telegraphic intention back then.
Through my X/Reddit searching, I came across a post that noted that Villanova's hoops NIL is estimated at 11.5M, while Maryland's is at 8M (or whereabouts). My mental model has NU's NIL much lesser than that - but that's just based on gut feel and perception. (Who knows, maybe it's closer?)
Willard is interesting because they were mediocre last year and good this year, but the good this year came with the most top-heavy roster in the country. So much so that they branded it the Crab Five. The two best of their players are moving on after this year (Queen and Reese), and I think Miguel may be out of eligibility as well because he’s already played 5 years even though some sources show him as a junior.
Maybe he’s seizing an opportunity to make a clean break? I’d be nervous about Collins there, but I agree that they probably would have their eyes on bigger prizes.
Maybe he’s seizing an opportunity to make a clean break? I’d be nervous about Collins there, but I agree that they probably would have their eyes on bigger prizes.
I saw something where someone said NIL paid to two top Villanova players equalized what we paid for our full roster. Not sure how accurate that is, but that type of math explains why some people are eager to move jobs.
Guru has been just about the best source out there. He took some crap about being wrong on Barnhizer, but he was really just premature, and I can forgive him for not knowing that Barnhizer was a freak who would play on a broken foot for five games or whatever.
The Barnhizer stuff was a guy pretending to be him, slightly different account name.
They came on my radar during signing period, and pretty much called the incoming class. While blustery at times, the account kicks out tons of NU hoops content. I definitely pay attention.
This account is pretty legit, there was another account that called himself the same thing for credibility and turned out to be an undergrad at another school with a friend who was a student manager.
Ok. Add a zero. Are the Vassars in for $50mm? The price tag used to be $100mm for naming rights to a school. A good point guard is highly visible.
This is the sad result of NIL. It will ultimately be the end of NU big time sports and hasten the transition of its facilities to other use.
Starting next season, total direct payments from individual schools to athletes will be capped at $20.5 million. Schools can allocate that money to whatever sports and in whatever quantities they want, but it won't be a free-for-all anymore. That makes Villanova attractive to candidates because they're only funding an FCS football program, leaving more money for basketball.
(Separate NIL deals with local businesses, NIL collectives, etc. will still be unregulated, so we're probably just going back to the era of players getting bags of cash from local car dealers)
This probably makes it easier to raise NIL funds from bigtime donors, since it provides a goal rather than an unknown turnstile of increasingly large amounts of cash.
The schools are going to give out $20.5 million in cannabis to the athletes?? The pace of play may slow down some in coming years.
But only for 2-4 years where as naming rights go on. And does anyone actually benefit from having sponsored the PG? U+I mean do you hear something like here is so and so your (chose the name of the business)PG?
Collins isn't going anywhere.
The only question is - is he actually trying to get another job?
Or is he just trying to get more $$$ from Northwestern?
The only question is - is he actually trying to get another job?
Or is he just trying to get more $$$ from Northwestern?
My gut says it is about assuring him he will have the NIL money to be competitive. CC is competitive and probably wants to get a BIG10 championship and at least a Final 4. Lucky to have a guy who isnt satisfied. IMO he has overachieved with the players he has had and feels it will catch up with the Cats. I loved Carmody and the magic show of an offense he ran but never got the feeling he was that into making it to the top ? CC on the other hand wants to grab that golden ring before the merry go round stops...I think any hesitation he is having is about improving his chances of winning......
I caught Kevin Willard's presser yesterday (excerpt below) - and what I gathered from this was some high stakes poker.
Prior to presser it's reported (or leaked) that Willard has the extension offer in hand, but hasn't signed.
During presser he's asked about it:
Prior to presser it's reported (or leaked) that Willard has the extension offer in hand, but hasn't signed.
During presser he's asked about it:
- Verbalizes that his AD is likely headed to SMU, so he doesn't even know who he's supposed to negotiate with anyway.
- Confirms he hasn't signed it yet because he sees needed change around RevShare/NIL.
- Cites example where he wanted to extend team's stayover in NYC during a road trip, and was told that it was too expensive.
It's kinda' crummy to be negotiating through the media like this, isn't it?
Never liked that guy. Aired out way too much dirty laundry about the program. Esp about the Christmas trip to New York.
Just a leverage ploy, then.
Great leverage for Collins because the AD wants to get his name in the paper.
Personally, I'm not a fan of longterm deals. Obviously there are hordes on this website who would make him the highest paid coach for eternity. I sense a big mistake coming.
Not really about Collins the individual, I just think it is damned near impossible for Northwestern to make an informed decision, with the landscape changing dramatically - and unpredictably. Committing to anything longterm in those circumstances is very risky.
Great leverage for Collins because the AD wants to get his name in the paper.
Personally, I'm not a fan of longterm deals. Obviously there are hordes on this website who would make him the highest paid coach for eternity. I sense a big mistake coming.
Not really about Collins the individual, I just think it is damned near impossible for Northwestern to make an informed decision, with the landscape changing dramatically - and unpredictably. Committing to anything longterm in those circumstances is very risky.
Why shouldn't he unless he has no intention of staying? How is he going to have the NIL etc he need if they cannot even book a hotel room, But even if he leaves, it should help whoever replaces him
Yeah, but it's the cost of playing poker. They don't raise banners for "Most wins per dollar committed".
This is my instinct too, creating a distraction for the team during the tournament, but on the other hand the guys all know it's going on and everybody in every program knows that as soon as the season is over we all negotiate over who leaves, who stays, who might transfer, who will get what NIL bag, etc. The players are thinking the same thing and know it's going on, so it's not like it's not something everybody is thinking about anyway. At least now you acknowledge the reports and can tell your guys "yeah, we're all still figuring out next year still, let's all worry about that on Monday."
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