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Remain calm

How do you think we missed Hunger? I'm not sure adding his 0 for 4 shooting, 2 rebounds, and 3 fouls into the mix would change much.

because Fitzmorris played 18 minutes or whatever.

There are those on the board who say "Trust Collins, he's infallible"
Fitzmorris is/was 3rd string. Therefore he is much worse than Hunger.
No way around that logic - its like a cult around here sometimes.
Until it is proven wrong and then the story is re-written.

I'm being facetious, but Fitzmorris doesn't look, move or act like a good Big Ten center.
However, I'm all about the results... and so far Fitzmorris, for a guy who previously got zero game experience with his new teammates, has to be a pleasant surprise. Not that he's good - but he doesn't suck like most assumed, based on where he sat on the bench.

Remain calm

I think Luke is a great, high character guy who plays hard, does his best, and shows a positive outlook in game.
I appreciate that we have him as a backup on the team.
I am interested in giving a few of his minutes to Keenan going forward, see how that goes.

Per ESPN this is his 2024-2025 line thru 15 games:

GPMINFG%3P%FT%REBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
1515.938.16.783.33.11.70.10.12.10.73.6

Matt is the better defender, but Luke's offense isn't showing up so much - and that's with mostly non-conference foes. Luke is the best free throw shooter of the three of them by far, no contest, but he doesn't draw fouls - six free throws so far this season.

Matt, who is generally treated as an offensive black hole:

GPMINFG%3P%FT%REBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
1622.760.80.047.64.91.31.20.61.80.65.1
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Please change up this lineup for the love of God

If thats the reality, then we are toast. (I disagree with your assessment)

Windham and Ciaravino are both better right now than Mullins, who is the first sub off the bench for 4 positions.
Both freshmen can create their own shot. We only have 2 other guys on the roster who can say that with confidence.
Windham and Ciaravino are both willing, athletic, inexperienced defenders.

For the time being it may be better to play Mullins when Hunger is on the court - to shore up the defense.
But I can't make a case for putting Mullins out there with Nicholson.

Leach is ahead of the freshmen right now when it comes to creating his own shot. It’s not just about the offensive moves. It’s also about what the defense has to prepare for. When you're a focal point of the defense's game plan, it’s that much harder to score. Leach, at this stage, is better equipped for that challenge.

The difference in terms of defensive impact between Mullins and the freshmen is more noticeable than the gap offensively. Now, let’s set the record straight on Mullins. This whole idea that he’s not quick enough is off base. He’s our most athletic guy, hands down. His length, his speed, his hops, his basketball IQ... it all makes him an elite defender. He’s not the flashiest scorer, but he’s a willing, smart passer. Yeah, he had a couple of lazy passes in the MSU game, but that happens. But when it comes to defense, Mullins is an elite. He creates turnovers, makes timely switches, communicates like a vet, and is second only to Barnhizer on the defensive end. That’s why he's getting major minutes, because he can lock it down defensively.

As for the freshmen, being willing on defense doesn’t mean you’re good on defense. They’ve got the tools, Windham especially can be really good down the road, but right now, they’re still making mistakes. Miscommunications, bad switches, getting bullied by stronger players, that’s normal for freshmen. But that’s also why freshmen typically aren’t relied on for heavy minutes early in their career. If you’re ranking them over Mullins, it tells me you're prioritizing shooting over defense and ball movement, and that’s not the whole picture.

Berry and Leach have a higher ceiling than anyone on the bench, but the problem is they don’t hit that ceiling often enough. That’s why the freshmen are getting more minutes, they’re showing flashes of something really good down the line. But if this team wants to get back to the tournament, it needs more out of Berry and Leach at that ceiling level. The freshmen aren't at that level yet, and that's fine, they shouldn’t be expected to be. They're not ready to consistently impact games without making mistakes that hurt us, especially on defense. They’ve got a lot of potential, but right now, that’s all it is at the moment potential. I am not saying that there won’t be a game or two where one of them will get red hot and make a huge impact on a game. I just don’t think they are ready to do that consistently yet.

Bottom line: we need more consistency from the upperclassmen if we're going to make a run. The freshmen can help, but they’re not the foundation yet. We should be expecting more out our seniors at this point. They need to step up.

Remain calm

How do you think we missed Hunger? I'm not sure adding his 0 for 4 shooting, 2 rebounds, and 3 fouls into the mix would change much.

I'm among the few on this board who doesn't crap on Hunger consistently. That's because at his size, agility and fearlessness (in terms of taking shots and being physical), he can make a meaningful contribution as a backup.

Last year:
  • vs. Michigan State - 10 on 6 shots (2/3 from 3FG), 4 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk, 1 stl in 19 min
  • vs OSU - 11 on 6 (1/3 from 3FG), 3 reb, 1 ast in 23 min
  • vs Michigan - 8 on 5, 2 reb in 18 min
then after Nicholson went down:
  • vs. Wisconsin at BTT - 6 on 3, 4 reb, 2 ast in 32 min
  • vs. FAU (NCAA rd 1) - 8 on 6 (6/8 from FT), 8 reb, 4 ast in 29 min
This year his best B1G performance was vs Iowa: 7 on 5, 4 reb, 1. ast, in 22 min. Nicholson is the better defender, for sure - and I'd advocate Nix getting 22-25 minutes a game - but Hunger can add another wrinkle - he's definitely got a smooth mid-range jumper, and he can upfake and drive against less mobile 5s. It's been tough to get that consistently out of him this year so far, but I think it's there.

Wildside

Let's keep in mind that this year's team is missing an all-time NU great player, if not THE greatest player in school history. The offense has certainly not run as seamlessly as it did with Boo running the show, and we can no longer rely on him to either shoot the last shot or get us a good one. Plenty of games left in the year for Ty's and Big Matt's continued recoveries from their surgeries.
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Wildside

Something’s different this year. Not sure what.
Berry is not up to what he was during the year both on O and D, Barnhizer is off a bit as well not really hitting his 3s Plus we have had a dreadful schedule so far this year, We have had several last second plays called against us. Guys were set back by injuries and they were out longer than expected so not really up to form

Please change up this lineup for the love of God

The young guys show promise but reality is they are not ready for a major role yet
If thats the reality, then we are toast. (I disagree with your assessment)

Windham and Ciaravino are both better right now than Mullins, who is the first sub off the bench for 4 positions.
Both freshmen can create their own shot. We only have 2 other guys on the roster who can say that with confidence.
Windham and Ciaravino are both willing, athletic, inexperienced defenders.

For the time being it may be better to play Mullins when Hunger is on the court - to shore up the defense.
But I can't make a case for putting Mullins out there with Nicholson.

+/- for the Misfire against Michigan State

...Windham. He is the only guy on the team who can dribble the ball while facing the opposing point guard - Barnhizer frequently has to turn his shoulder to prevent getting his pocket picked. Makes it hard to see the court.
This is definitely a problem for the offense.

There are some guys Leach can go face up against, but not too many in conference. He is a solid shooting guard and operating as point is not his best usage.

PSU used that against Brooks a bunch. Their two guard waiting until Brooks got a little past half court and line of sight on him, then circling around behind to try and steal as Brooks was turned away from center court to protect the ball from his defender. Had some success, unfortunately.
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