I didn’t say it was all on Collins. But we keep seeing the same storyline season after season as ”his” players get older with more experience.
I agree. Combination of Covid and weather.
Didn't know U of C had also invested $1B in athletic facilities.
Wait, huh? 3.5 hours including the game itself? In the weather? That’s, like… not bad at all.
He needs to space out the subs instead of having the 5 man unit stuff. Proud of what Greer has done through several years of hard work, but in big 10 games he’s still a limited minutes guy. Williams and Young typically play well off each other, but I don’t think they need to be out there with 2-3 other bench players all at once.
Agree with most of this, but still buy stuff. Their retailer is a small business run by some of the best people in the world. Dave and Cindy are gems and they don’t deserve to have their life impacted by bad NU decisions.
100%. I (a die hard fan of >25 years) have waned in interest but my NU “identity” is not defined by the current state of FB/BB teams so I will continue to buy plenty of gear from Let’s Tailgate. They are great.
I appreciate you pointing out specific’s related to things we could or should have done better in this loss. Usually, it is generalities that CCC blew the game and it is based nothing from the actual game we watched. I blasted CCc last year when the team went into the turtle with leads in the second half. I just don’t see the usual talking points in this one:
At some point, isn’t “actually the players aren’t that good” also on the coach?
Interesting argument, but I disagree. Henry Biennen wanted us to be U of C, but Morty has embraced the fact that we have Big 10 athletics. I also don't think the students want to be U of C either. If you got into NU then you likely had some pretty good other options for college, meaning you could have chosen a small hyper academic school (think U of C, Wash U, Amherst, Carleton, etc.), but instead made the choice to go to NU. There are quite a few kids who are deciding between U of C and Northwestern and everyone knows how different they are, the kids who choose NU want sports, greek life, and reasonable facisimile of a Big 10 school.
Or admissions. Or the refs. Or the fans.
Buck stops with? Blame trump - might as well - many believe he is the source of all and anything that goes wrong…
No disagreement. I was thinking purchases on campus or from Amazon. I usually buy the niece something NU to push her in that direction. I decided not too this year. Just wasn’t feeling it.
Well, hopefully somebody let him know today the ship is taking on water.
Some of those shots Lundy and Pickett were making had me wondering if NBBHG had taken a bunch of viagra just before the game.
1) Yes, we have the people who went out of the way to set expectations seen only once or twice in the history of NU so they can make their argument.
So it is unreasonable to have your starters in at the most critical time? That makes no sense unless you are starting the incorrect players.
It’s no skin off my back if they make a change at the end of the season. I am sure it would result in a short term boost to the results. I have grave doubts it would turn NU into a consistent winner or even contender for tournaments outside of the CBI.
Obviously, CC is not the complete reason. But you can't ignore that he plays a pretty strong part. And I think you've already done that when you blasted him in the past.
I am being civil here, trying to have an interesting and productive debate here.
You know that is not fair. Because it ignores that setting expectations at, say, 6 or 7 wins, is doing the same for folks who think CC is competent. It's setting the bar so low just to prove he is competent.
You could/should have stopped after 2nd sentence in the second paragraph. Admissions!
Very much agree with 3 and 4. I think Berry made his 4 point play only to get subbed out right after he shot the free throw. When you make a play like this it has a way of creating both individual confidence (getting in the zone) and team momentum. But he subs right out. That was odd to me and we see a lot of that. You leave your hot hand(s) in the game.
Yup - it was a lot better when we were more regularly just uncompetitive during the tenures of ALL of our other coaches. /s
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I agree with 3 & 4 as an overall criticism of CCC. We definitely aren’t good enough to have 4 subs in for an extended period of time in a competitive game. I think between Pete, Chase and Boo, we should make every effort to have 2 of the 3 on the court at all times. Of course, depends on Chase’s health as he clearly was laboring against PSU. Yesterday, we got very little from the bench. Williams adds a little zip to the team with his hustle and I would be for giving him more run in certain situations.
That's what I was getting at though, that the Biennen undercurrent still exists among the faculty. I believe this affects the major sports mainly through admissions. Neither Fitz nor CCC can get enough of the type of players they really need. Compounding that, is likely the perception among elite athletes that NU is never going to be elite at Football or Basketball. It takes stellar recruiting to overcome that, if it is even possible. As has been discussed many times, Duke got to be a basketball power in part with more tolerant admissions. If NU wants to be a basketball power, there is no point in hiring a new coach unless admissions is also addressed. Otherwise it will be the same old story.
I would have applied to U of C if they offered undergrad engineering, but they didn't. They're too elite for engineering, or something.
I'd hope there would have been some reporting on it, but it never happened.
