That is what I believe will be the case. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm guessing it's true.
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The players don't get their first look at it until sometime the week of the 22nd.....Gotta believe you're guessing right. T-minus 19 days and counting . . .
That is what I believe will be the case. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm guessing it's true.
Faith is, purportedly, belief without evidence...
I think the combination of the new WRA locker rooms and the adjacent practice facility will be well received by the players, if as you say the Walter Athletic Center is any indication.Fan experience is one thing....and you can only go up from the previous facility. My biggest gripe was seats and that's been fixed. The common areas didn't bother me that much, though I know other people found them to be disappointing. The will be able to do some things with the common areas that draw in the non NU fans a la Chicago Stadium....is my guess.
Improved site lines can really make it an exciting venue.
A big deal for the players is the locker rooms and player facilities. If that gets the same buzz as the Taj Fitz and Nebby's locker room it can actually make a difference in recruiting.
It's impressive that this got done.
... It's impressive that this got done.
Coming up with a business case to spend significant money on Ryan Field will be tough. Yesterdays showing was pathetic: NU fans in a decided minority, many season ticket holders selling their seats to UN-L fans, Cats using the silent count because of crowd noise at their home field! Why spend money on the stadium to benefit Nebraska or Michigan fans? I doubt better seats or more concession options or new bathrooms will increase the NU fan attendance.And that was with Ryan Field needing a lot of work.
So keep playing in a dump? How about you right size it and make it non prehistoric?Coming up with a business case to spend significant money on Ryan Field will be tough. Yesterdays showing was pathetic: NU fans in a decided minority, many season ticket holders selling their seats to UN-L fans, Cats using the silent count because of crowd noise at their home field! Why spend money on the stadium to benefit Nebraska or Michigan fans? I doubt better seats or more concession options or new bathrooms will increase the NU fan attendance.
Spending huge amounts of dough on a place that is only used 6 or 7 times a year? Don't see it.
Because it will cost a fortune and I'd rather have the donors spend the money on academic facilities. NU is a University for Pete's sake.How about you right size it and make it non prehistoric?
Because it will cost a fortune and I'd rather have the donors spend the money on academic facilities. NU is a University for Pete's sake.
The new WRA makes more sense. The two basketball teams use it 35 or so times a year, and volleyball and wrestling also use it. Plus it can be used for other events including high school tournaments. So you add it up and it comes to about 10 times more useful than a new football stadium. And probably costs significantly less than a major renovation to Dyche Stadium.I really dont want to be the guy to make an argument for more spending on football. But if we're going to go down the road of spending on athletics vs. the academic side of the institution, can I assume you're not a fan of the new badketball arena, Fitzphile?
... NU fans in a decided minority ... many season ticket holders selling their seats to UN-L fans ... Why spend money on the stadium to benefit Nebraska or Michigan fans? I doubt better seats or more concession options or new bathrooms will increase the NU fan attendance.
I agree. The business case for a new Dyche would have to consider the incremental revenue between the "do nothing" case of the current stadium and the additional revenue for the new stadium. My belief is that there would be very little additional revenue (either because more people attend at current prices, or higher ticket and donations more than offset lower attendance) and therefore the business case would be really weak.Also, I don't think I've ever seen a "business plan" that doesn't consider the revenue generated by the product.
Donors can give their money to be spent how they direct it, Take your beef to Pat Ryan,Because it will cost a fortune and I'd rather have the donors spend the money on academic facilities. NU is a University for Pete's sake.
Like get in and out of the bathrooms?Fan experience is one thing....and you can only go up from the previous facility. My biggest gripe was seats and that's been fixed. The common areas didn't bother me that much, though I know other people found them to be disappointing. The will be able to do some things with the common areas that draw in the non NU fans a la Chicago Stadium....is my guess.
Improved site lines can really make it an exciting venue.
A big deal for the players is the locker rooms and player facilities. If that gets the same buzz as the Taj Fitz and Nebby's locker room it can actually make a difference in recruiting.
It's impressive that this got done.
WR was always supposedly a detriment to the teams that played there. Don't see the same thing with FB and practice facilities are much more important. Also plenty of practices in WR as well. Whereas FB not so much as it would tear up the field. So far the athletic monies have been put in the right places.Ahhh. I see where youre coming from. I don't agree with you, but you make a reasonable point about the 50+ events annually.
However, the low attendance/scalping/visiting fans argument you make above sure doesn't sound much different than a case for the Welsh two years ago.
Also, I don't think I've ever seen a "business plan" that doesn't consider the revenue generated by the product.
Wow, seriously? But I agree whatever the price a new student center is >>> new stadium.Campus priority should be a new Norris Center. Thats like $200+ million.
Coming up with a business case to spend significant money on Ryan Field will be tough. Yesterdays showing was pathetic: NU fans in a decided minority, many season ticket holders selling their seats to UN-L fans, Cats using the silent count because of crowd noise at their home field! Why spend money on the stadium to benefit Nebraska or Michigan fans? I doubt better seats or more concession options or new bathrooms will increase the NU fan attendance.
Spending huge amounts of dough on a place that is only used 6 or 7 times a year? Don't see it.
WR was always supposedly a detriment to the teams that played there. Don't see the same thing with FB and practice facilities are much more important. Also plenty of practices in WR as well. Whereas FB not so much as it would tear up the field. So far the athletic monies have been put in the right places.
Doing something significant to RF would be very expensive and unlikely to really change anything other than cutting down visitor complaints. This is not saying nothing should be done. Just that anything significant, for the most part, would be of questionable value. Ever been to WIS? Lot's of money spent and for that you get more Rest Rooms and a bit better concessions but not a whole lot more of value. And talk about being squeezed in with 16 inch seats (if that.) Now if you get to tearing down and replacing MN shows a nice option but I don;t see that happening.
Campus priority should be a new Norris Center. Thats like $200+ million. It is key to student life, to prospective students visiting. It’s on campus and the center of the student experience
This is a dumb question that is only slightly related, but where is the home locker room at Dyche these days? I haven't been back for a game since they built that Walker Terrace building. I just assumed that was a passthrough to the football building. That's not the locker room, is it? Do they still have a gameday locker room in the old football building once the basketball renovations are done?
I agree with this. If you expect the casual non-alum fan to turn into the rabid diehard fan you can’t surround him with Cousin Eddie taking his one trip to the big city every year.I didn't notice us using the silent count against NE. But, yeah, our fan turnout was nothing to be proud of.
For years I've thought NU should build smaller and nicer facilities. After almost 30 years of going to games I'm resigned to the belief we're not going to find enough fans to have an overwhelming majority at old WRA or RF. So make the venues smaller to cut out some of the opposing fan percentage and make them nicer so NU fans don't have an excuse not to go. The new WRA will put this theory to the test. If it improves our home court advantage I bet they do the same thing with RF.
Ok, thanks! It doesn't seem big enough, but I guess it must be.Nope. Walker Terrace houses the locker room. The set up is the opposite of what you imagined. No locker room in the old football building.
I agree with this. If you expect the casual non-alum fan to turn into the rabid diehard fan you can’t surround him with Cousin Eddie taking his one trip to the big city every year.
NU did rearrange the interior of the ground floor of Norris this summer quite significantlyFWIW: My daughter just took an official tour of campus last week as a prospective student. She and my wife were shocked that Norris wasn’t even a stop along the way.
After all these thousands of North Shore families enjoy the public spaces, where will they all sit? Ah, the Cubs won the World Series!I think what is possible from the new WR that wasn't possible from the old is a completely different level of experience. And that is due to the vastly expanded public spaces. Just like the United Center has so much going on in the hallways that kids and uninterested adults enjoy going and hanging out.
It's not my scene, but the audience is there on the North Shore to pull thousands and thousands of families in for three or four games.
Personally, I hate how '85 changed the Cubs. Used to be you could show up at the game, get in, and work your way down....sitting amongst Cub fans who knew that Pete Lacock was the son of a famous game show host. Those days are gone because Wrigley has become a thing for all the transplants who live in Lincoln Park, Lake View and Uptown. Costs a fortune and you're sitting amongst yuppies that aren't die hard.
Never the less, if the new WR can pull them in it will be phenomenal. Crappy for me because I like to park on the street and walk over, but I guess good for recruiting and television.
Exactly. New music building, new Kellogg building, new visitor center. All three with magnificent views overlooking the lake. New dorms and upgrades to old ones. Big upgrades to the Tech building. I was on campus recently, and it's changed significantly since I was a student 20 years ago.I think there's a very real third option in this discussion. The last five years have pretty much demonstrated that heavy spending on athletic facilities at NU doesn't necessarily diminish strong expansion in other parts of the university.
After all these thousands of North Shore families enjoy the public spaces, where will they all sit? Ah, the Cubs won the World Series!
Also 10,000 plus for Kansas and some guy named Chamberlain on 12/7/1957!Willy, home with the flu today so I've been scrolling through the new media kit that NU basketball put out. I see that when NU hosted the championship game in the 50's -- San Fran versus Iowa -- more than 10,000 saw the game. It was and is the record for attendance. How unpleasant that must have been.
I didn't notice us using the silent count against NE. But, yeah, our fan turnout was nothing to be proud of.
For years I've thought NU should build smaller and nicer facilities. After almost 30 years of going to games I'm resigned to the belief we're not going to find enough fans to have an overwhelming majority at old WRA or RF. So make the venues smaller to cut out some of the opposing fan percentage and make them nicer so NU fans don't have an excuse not to go. The new WRA will put this theory to the test. If it improves our home court advantage I bet they do the same thing with RF.
Willy, home with the flu today so I've been scrolling through the new media kit that NU basketball put out. I see that when NU hosted the championship game in the 50's -- San Fran versus Iowa -- more than 10,000 saw the game. It was and is the record for attendance. How unpleasant that must have been.