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Purdue 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Looking ahead to Wednesday night's game against those aggrieved Boilers. Some items of interest:

Home vs Road splits - a few things jump out immediately:
Purdue is shooting 47.2% from 3 at home vs 35.3% on the road in conference play:
Braden Smith - 4/9 44.4% at home, 8/26 30.8% on the road
Lance Jones - 13/28 46.4% at home, 13/47 27.6% on the road
Fletcher Loyer - 6/11 54.5% at home, 14/29 48.3% on the road
Mason Gillis - 7/12 58.3% at home, 9/19 47.4% on the road

Rebounding - They rebound 43.3% of their missed shots at home against 35.6% on the road.

Shooting defense - Teams shoot 34% from 3 and 43% from 2 against them at home, vs 37.7% and 44.8% respectively on the road.

Turnovers - they commit about 2.5 fewer turnovers per game at home

Edey - Averages only 8 FTAs per game at home, against 12 FTAs on the road. 20.2 points/game, 14.2 boards/game, 2.2 blocks/game, 2 turnovers/game at home vs 27 ppg, 12.8 boards/game, 2.5 blocks/game, 2.8 turnovers/game on the road.

Our Home/Road splits:
We shoot 45.5% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 at home vs 38.8% and 47.9% respectively on the road.
Our shooting defense has been woeful on the road, allowing teams to shoot 43.5% from 3 and 58.3% from 2 compared to 36% and 48% respectively at home. Interestingly teams only shoot 3s 30.8% of the time against us when we're on the road vs 36.1% when we're at home, so we're due for a bit of positive regression there? 🤷‍♂️
We turn the ball over twice as much on the road as at home, though that's a bit skewed by the PSU game - 11.2 to 5.4.

In Game 1, Purdue was not able to use Trey Kaufmann-Renn as much as they would like due to foul trouble, and so their starters only played 8 minutes together getting outscored 17-16, compared to 10.5mpg in their last 5 games. The remaining starters ended up playing better with Gillis in his place anyway, outscoring us 17-12 in 7:17, however when Smith/Loyer/Gillis/Edey played with someone other than Jones, they were outscored 30-22 in 9:52.
Jones fouled out late in the second half, forcing them to play freshman Camden Heide the remainder of the game and Smith/Loyer subsequently committed 5 turnovers on their 13 possessions (38%!) during the rest of the game compared to 12 in the previous 67 (18%).
We were 20-32 on free throws (Hunger/Preston were 3-10), though 12 of them were in OT and 8 were when Purdue was desperation fouling. I will almost certainly guarantee that we won't see 20 FTAs in regulation, though opponents have averaged 17 FTAs/game at Purdue. We also made 50% of our 3s in Game 1, which I doubt will happen again.
Purdue managed to get two more possessions than us in the game, which fortunately wasn't an issue.

So yeah, not expecting a victory here, but if we want to stay in this game, we need to avoid getting down big early. In each of their 4 conference home games, Purdue has opened up double-digit leads in the first 10 minutes - up 18 on Iowa, 16 on Illinois, 23 on PSU and 14 on Michigan. None of them took the lead at any point in the game after, though Illinois did cut it to 3 at one point. Hopefully we can keep it close, as the pressure will build on Purdue if that happens.
 
Looking ahead to Wednesday night's game against those aggrieved Boilers. Some items of interest:

Home vs Road splits - a few things jump out immediately:
Purdue is shooting 47.2% from 3 at home vs 35.3% on the road in conference play:
Braden Smith - 4/9 44.4% at home, 8/26 30.8% on the road
Lance Jones - 13/28 46.4% at home, 13/47 27.6% on the road
Fletcher Loyer - 6/11 54.5% at home, 14/29 48.3% on the road
Mason Gillis - 7/12 58.3% at home, 9/19 47.4% on the road

Rebounding - They rebound 43.3% of their missed shots at home against 35.6% on the road.

Shooting defense - Teams shoot 34% from 3 and 43% from 2 against them at home, vs 37.7% and 44.8% respectively on the road.

Turnovers - they commit about 2.5 fewer turnovers per game at home

Edey - Averages only 8 FTAs per game at home, against 12 FTAs on the road. 20.2 points/game, 14.2 boards/game, 2.2 blocks/game, 2 turnovers/game at home vs 27 ppg, 12.8 boards/game, 2.5 blocks/game, 2.8 turnovers/game on the road.

Our Home/Road splits:
We shoot 45.5% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 at home vs 38.8% and 47.9% respectively on the road.
Our shooting defense has been woeful on the road, allowing teams to shoot 43.5% from 3 and 58.3% from 2 compared to 36% and 48% respectively at home. Interestingly teams only shoot 3s 30.8% of the time against us when we're on the road vs 36.1% when we're at home, so we're due for a bit of positive regression there? 🤷‍♂️
We turn the ball over twice as much on the road as at home, though that's a bit skewed by the PSU game - 11.2 to 5.4.

In Game 1, Purdue was not able to use Trey Kaufmann-Renn as much as they would like due to foul trouble, and so their starters only played 8 minutes together getting outscored 17-16, compared to 10.5mpg in their last 5 games. The remaining starters ended up playing better with Gillis in his place anyway, outscoring us 17-12 in 7:17, however when Smith/Loyer/Gillis/Edey played with someone other than Jones, they were outscored 30-22 in 9:52.
Jones fouled out late in the second half, forcing them to play freshman Camden Heide the remainder of the game and Smith/Loyer subsequently committed 5 turnovers on their 13 possessions (38%!) during the rest of the game compared to 12 in the previous 67 (18%).
We were 20-32 on free throws (Hunger/Preston were 3-10), though 12 of them were in OT and 8 were when Purdue was desperation fouling. I will almost certainly guarantee that we won't see 20 FTAs in regulation, though opponents have averaged 17 FTAs/game at Purdue. We also made 50% of our 3s in Game 1, which I doubt will happen again.
Purdue managed to get two more possessions than us in the game, which fortunately wasn't an issue.

So yeah, not expecting a victory here, but if we want to stay in this game, we need to avoid getting down big early. In each of their 4 conference home games, Purdue has opened up double-digit leads in the first 10 minutes - up 18 on Iowa, 16 on Illinois, 23 on PSU and 14 on Michigan. None of them took the lead at any point in the game after, though Illinois did cut it to 3 at one point. Hopefully we can keep it close, as the pressure will build on Purdue if that happens.
Those are some pretty significant differences.

Keep in mind that some of this is also a product of their schedule. Their non con home games were Samford, Morehead State, Xavier, Texas Southern, Jacksonville and Eastern Kentucky. They did all their damage on neutral courts pre B1G play.
 
Those are some pretty significant differences.

Keep in mind that some of this is also a product of their schedule. Their non con home games were Samford, Morehead State, Xavier, Texas Southern, Jacksonville and Eastern Kentucky. They did all their damage on neutral courts pre B1G play.
No, all of the numbers were just from conference play only.
 
Looking ahead to Wednesday night's game against those aggrieved Boilers. Some items of interest:
...
Edey - Averages only 8 FTAs per game at home, against 12 FTAs on the road. 20.2 points/game, 14.2 boards/game, 2.2 blocks/game, 2 turnovers/game at home vs 27 ppg, 12.8 boards/game, 2.5 blocks/game, 2.8 turnovers/game on the road...

That stat makes a lot of sense when you factor in how much better the rest of the team performs. Edey doesn't have to work as hard when they're hitting and defending.

Thanks for the stats.
 
Looking ahead to Wednesday night's game against those aggrieved Boilers. Some items of interest:

Home vs Road splits - a few things jump out immediately:
Purdue is shooting 47.2% from 3 at home vs 35.3% on the road in conference play:
Braden Smith - 4/9 44.4% at home, 8/26 30.8% on the road
Lance Jones - 13/28 46.4% at home, 13/47 27.6% on the road
Fletcher Loyer - 6/11 54.5% at home, 14/29 48.3% on the road
Mason Gillis - 7/12 58.3% at home, 9/19 47.4% on the road

Rebounding - They rebound 43.3% of their missed shots at home against 35.6% on the road.

Shooting defense - Teams shoot 34% from 3 and 43% from 2 against them at home, vs 37.7% and 44.8% respectively on the road.

Turnovers - they commit about 2.5 fewer turnovers per game at home

Edey - Averages only 8 FTAs per game at home, against 12 FTAs on the road. 20.2 points/game, 14.2 boards/game, 2.2 blocks/game, 2 turnovers/game at home vs 27 ppg, 12.8 boards/game, 2.5 blocks/game, 2.8 turnovers/game on the road.

Our Home/Road splits:
We shoot 45.5% from 3 and 54.5% from 2 at home vs 38.8% and 47.9% respectively on the road.
Our shooting defense has been woeful on the road, allowing teams to shoot 43.5% from 3 and 58.3% from 2 compared to 36% and 48% respectively at home. Interestingly teams only shoot 3s 30.8% of the time against us when we're on the road vs 36.1% when we're at home, so we're due for a bit of positive regression there? 🤷‍♂️
We turn the ball over twice as much on the road as at home, though that's a bit skewed by the PSU game - 11.2 to 5.4.

In Game 1, Purdue was not able to use Trey Kaufmann-Renn as much as they would like due to foul trouble, and so their starters only played 8 minutes together getting outscored 17-16, compared to 10.5mpg in their last 5 games. The remaining starters ended up playing better with Gillis in his place anyway, outscoring us 17-12 in 7:17, however when Smith/Loyer/Gillis/Edey played with someone other than Jones, they were outscored 30-22 in 9:52.
Jones fouled out late in the second half, forcing them to play freshman Camden Heide the remainder of the game and Smith/Loyer subsequently committed 5 turnovers on their 13 possessions (38%!) during the rest of the game compared to 12 in the previous 67 (18%).
We were 20-32 on free throws (Hunger/Preston were 3-10), though 12 of them were in OT and 8 were when Purdue was desperation fouling. I will almost certainly guarantee that we won't see 20 FTAs in regulation, though opponents have averaged 17 FTAs/game at Purdue. We also made 50% of our 3s in Game 1, which I doubt will happen again.
Purdue managed to get two more possessions than us in the game, which fortunately wasn't an issue.

So yeah, not expecting a victory here, but if we want to stay in this game, we need to avoid getting down big early. In each of their 4 conference home games, Purdue has opened up double-digit leads in the first 10 minutes - up 18 on Iowa, 16 on Illinois, 23 on PSU and 14 on Michigan. None of them took the lead at any point in the game after, though Illinois did cut it to 3 at one point. Hopefully we can keep it close, as the pressure will build on Purdue if that happens.
Wow. Did you consult with PWB before one upping his gig?
 
Maybe the NU bench can start a “d-u-i” chant to make it feel like a road game.

You got this, Gus.

Srsly, no downside in this one. Play hard, play aggressive, and forget the result by midnight no matter what it is.
 
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We have beaten this roster twice in 12 months. We can do it again. The opportunity is there.

Will be interesting to see how much we double Edey. Probably a lot, my guess. The good news is that Matt can spend the whole game in the paint, where he belongs.
 
Nice to have that two game cushion jn the loss column to get the double bye.

Throws the kids out in the second half and let them learn. Heck let Talor coach.

Torvik spread is 16
 
Purdue is tough anywhere, but very tough at home. It looks like the first 10 minutes will be particularly challenging. I have to think this one's outcome will depend a lot on bench coaching as the game progresses. The fact that four NU starters can shoot the 3 well puts some pressure on Painter, as Loyer is a big plus on offense but a real liability on defense. If the Cats weather the expected initial surge by putting the ball in the hands of whoever he is guarding, the decision to sit him may be necessary. It would not surprise me to see Collins allowing Nicholson guard Edey without help more than in the last several meetings, choosing to push Purdue's defense to start further out, with attempts to trap the ball handler. The theory would be that Edey will get his points, and cutting down the 3 point opportunities and forcing turnovers could be a winning strategy, especially if it lengthens the entry pass and allows MN to stop a few of those passes.
A certain element of the bench coaching will be reacting to how the game is officiated: if the calls are toward letting them play, the Cats can beat up on Edey and trap the ball aggressively. If the game is called like the December 1 game, where the whistles came early and often, the Cats will need to dial it back and Purdue will step up its feeds to the post. The worst case for the Cats would be where post fouls are called tightly and perimeter calls lightly. Regardless, adjusting pressure in response could be huge.
A win at Purdue would be huge, but it will take a combination of great coaching, great play and luck for it to happen, I think!
 
Wow. Did you consult with PWB before one upping his gig?
Anybody wants to do lineup breakdowns for our opponents, I'm all for it.
Or detailed home/away statistical reviews, with plenty of other stats thrown in for good measure.

Big picture, Cappy has taken to starting a thread about the upcoming opponent. A few times nobody had done that, so I did. You have to talk about your opponent - Wouldn't want to sleep on somebody!

Small picture - the refs are going to play a big role in how this Purdue game plays out.
 
Of course, I want to be wrong here, but this is one I've been pointing to for awhile that I see as a bad loss coming. Not only have we beaten these guys twice in a row, both in Evanston, and they are going to want some revenge, but as Cappy pointed out above, Purdue has been obnoxiously good at home. They are still a really good team on the road, but no one has been really that close to beating them in West Lafayette. Illinois lost by 5, but scored 8 of the last 10 points to make that score look a little better.

They have been able to find a different level at home that is extremely hard to match. If we play like we did against Illinois on Wednesday, we can play with them, but it's going to take that kind of effort to have any sort of chance. I have a hard time seeing this one staying within single digits. Prove me wrong, boys!
 
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